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Old 09-16-2017, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Fantastic news. I hope it passes.

Last I checked, transgender or not, they voluntarily took an oath to defend our freedoms. They will die if necessary.

I want them out there on the front lines to keep us safe. Their ability to fire an M-16 is not impaired in any way by thwir sexual preference.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I don't know why Trump came out so hard on transgendered people in the military when it is such a tiny percentage.
They might be confused about who they are but they still have the ability to serve.


However when it comes to transgendered people in the military I do not think that there should be special treatment of them and our tax dollars should not be spent on someones hormone treatments or gender reassignment surgeries.

Trump should have put his foot down on that and not call for a ban.
The trouble is if the military starts offering special treatment then people will go into the service as a means to have Uncle Sam pay for their drugs and surgery.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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When less than one percent of Americans are volunteering to join the military, we should welcome all those who are willing and able to serve our country,” McCain said in a statement. “Any member of the military who meets the medical and readiness standards should be allowed to serve — including those who are transgender.”


Trump’s ban was met with swift condemnation from many in Congress, along with military leaders. In August, 56 officers from the United States Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard signed a letter speaking out against the order.



John McCain Is Co-Sponsoring a Bill to Block President Trump's Transgender Military Ban


Trump telling is loyalist that he knows more then all the generals is B.S. Yet 56 officers from each branch of the military is against Trump and his small mindedness.

What is the additional cost of having a transgender serve above and beyond the cost of a regular soldier, gay or straight? Are they joining to get the government to pay for their sex reassignment surgery and then using the procedure to avoid combat?

I really don't know the answer.
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Probably because they military is now hemorrhaging recruits and are short of what they need for Trump's troop number increases.

Guess all those MAGA-eligibles better prepare for a draft. But, hey--it will be great for all those rural unemployed. Uncle Sam Wants You!

Seems like many immigrants are willing to fight for the country while a lot of snowflakes are not (or maybe they have bone spurs)

"...U.S. Army recruiters have abruptly canceled enlistment contracts for hundreds of foreign-born military recruits since last week, upending their lives and potentially exposing many to deportation, according to several affected recruits and former military officials familiar with their situation....

...Many of these enlistees have waited years to join a troubled recruitment program designed to attract highly skilled immigrants into the service in exchange for fast-track citizenship...."

...Now recruits and experts say that recruiters are shedding their contracts to free themselves from an onerous enlistment process, which includes extensive background investigations, to focus on individuals who can more quickly enlist and thus satisfy strict recruitment targets...

...It’s a dumpster fire ruining people’s lives. The magnitude of incompetence is beyond belief,” she said. “We have a war going on. We need these people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fa5588afbbad
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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McCain is certainly a supporter of anyone willing to go off to be killed in our stupid wars.


As are most members of congress anyone willing to die for them not the country. Why should their children have to die when everyone else can? Let's send thier children into war and see what happens!
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
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Old 09-23-2017, 11:07 PM
 
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We have too many soldiers as it is, and tax payers dont need to be footing the bill for all the baggage they will bring.
no one will miss the trannies in uniform.
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Old 09-23-2017, 11:10 PM
 
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So why do liberals really want transgenders in the military? Is it for "equality?" Should we grant "equality" to pregnant women, diabetics, color blind people, obese people, etc. Or is it because you want to look like you are the "heroes?" You need to make certain requirements to join the military and with all the treatments the transgenders are getting, we don't want to pay for medical treatments. You also need to be mentally fit and people who are confused about their gender aren't exactly mentally fit.
This. The military turns away lots of people for a lot less.
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