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"This is the inescapable conclusion of a landmark paper, published in Nature Geoscience, which finally admits that the computer models have overstated the impact of carbon dioxide on climate and that the planet is warming more slowly than predicted."
My guess is that a few billion people live a poverty lifestyle with a fraction of your footprint.
I agree!
A child born in the USA has forty times the lifetime carbon footprint of a child born in Egypt. (13 billion Egyptians could live on the energy the USA consumes)
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What's going to happen as they slowly begin to increase their lifestyles and have things like refrigeration and basic transportation?
It is already happening. It sure would be nice if we could get them off of fossil fuels right away, wouldn't it? Clean renewable energy, efficient transportation systems ...
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Trust me, if we are actually causing climate change now, there will be no way to prevent it as billions of others start getting what we consider necessities.
You might as well be trying to stop the wind by blowing the opposite direction.
What would you suggest I do ... rearrange the deck chairs?
I don't have all that much time left. I will do now what I can to make the life of our children and grandchildren a little less horrific. Won't you help?
John Coleman is not a climate scientist and is dead wrong, as is Ivar Giaever....They are no different from you, denying the science without any evidence at all.
John Coleman is not a climate scientist and is dead wrong, as is Ivar Giaever....They are no different from you, denying the science without any evidence at all.
now how did i know you would say that. they are however right, AGW climate change is a religion these days, based in politics. but these are people that can read the data, and make good conclusions despite what you think. you have made up your mind, and are a follower of the reverend al gore climate guru, whose science comes from one whole class he took when he was in college.
and i will also note that science is not a democracy, you dont vote on what is and is not proper science, and the science is NEVER settled. anyone who believes that is a religious fanatic.
Climate SCIENTISTS are in almost unanimous agreement (97%) that global warming is a major threat to our planet. A reasonable person does not turn to a highly partisan source for vital scientific information. Same old, same old. Just like CNN's reporting of Hurricane Maria was "fake news."
Having nothing to do with Breitbart or CNN, many an article has come out showing the models are either wrong or way off from the absurd claims many in the MMGW crowd have proffered. Remember the hockey stick graph that was promoted to alarm everyone?
Heck we would have experienced one ice age, one scorched earth, much of FL coast under water, etc. etc. by now according to many so called scientists.
As to the new catch all phrase of climate change, the believers somehow think the climate changing is a new phenomenon. You do not need to be a scientist to know many an ice age and global warming period occurred not only before the industrial revolution, but also before the dawn of man.
As to the new catch all phrase of climate change, the believers somehow think the climate changing is a new phenomenon. You do not need to be a scientist to know many an ice age and global warming period occurred not only before the industrial revolution, but also before the dawn of man.
This is a very tired argument. There's very little to debate that the gigatons of greenhouse gases, that were previously locked up underground for hundreds of millions of year, emitted annually play a role in climate.
Frankly, I ignore the alarmism as I think we just don't know enough to make such long term predictions. However, I support being proactive and I disregard the alarmism about it bankrupting us as I view it as an investment.
now how did i know you would say that. they are however right, AGW climate change is a religion these days, based in politics. but these are people that can read the data, and make good conclusions despite what you think. you have made up your mind, and are a follower of the reverend al gore climate guru, whose science comes from one whole class he took when he was in college.
and i will also note that science is not a democracy, you dont vote on what is and is not proper science, and the science is NEVER settled. anyone who believes that is a religious fanatic.
The science is never settled but there isn't much in the way to suggest that humans aren't affecting the climate, we can only argue about the extent until something actually comes to suggest otherwise.
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