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Old 09-21-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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I believe Brentwood is more than merely a "decent area" of Los Angeles. Might as well cite Beverly Hills.

Not sure why we're citing 5K sq ft houses.

Here's something more realistic in the San Fernando Valley. Not cheap, but not $2.8 million:
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...41_rect/12_zm/
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Roads in northern climates like NY and Boston are worn-down due to yearly snow and ice. Our weather is generally warm and dry and our roads are worn down due to overuse and lack of maintenance. Even though we have the money (supposly) to maintain it.



Yeah SF has better transportation then Houston, but that is nothing to be proud of. Compared to Europe or New York, SF's public transportation is woefully bad. BART doesn't cover most of the city and Muni is slow.




Outside of SF you have to drive everywhere here as well. Except fuel here is more expensive, the roads are in bad condition and the traffic is the worst in the country.



See that is exactly the problem with this state and its residents. We settle for mediocrity in everything we do here. We have a massive economy and lots of good jobs, millions of highly educated people and we live in the epicenter of global technology. Our public transportation system should be the envy of the world not 50 decades behead Europe, China and Japan.



I work in the field of architecture and construction management here in the Bay Area and do at least 30% of my business in the city of San Francisco alone. Which means I am driving into the city to visit job sites on a nearly weekly basis. Plus I grew up in the Bay Area. So I know the area well.

That said, the city of SF looks like a landfill compared to other cities. I was just in SOMA this past week for a party and was taken back at the amount of garbage on the street. SOMA is expensive and new, why is there so much litter there? The city parks are also trashed, think I am being hyperbolic. Go to Dolores park and take a look around. Go to any park in SF and take note of how much garbage is lying around and lets not even get into the amount of human waste you will encounter. I was in Chicago several months ago and the parks there are not only well maintained and beautiful but also spotlessly clean. Grant Park is smack in the middle of the city and it is unbelievably clean. Even Central Park in NY is much much better kept then any park in either SJ or SF. We have got so use to how badly trashed everything looks that we don't even notice it anymore. Which is really sad.



The property in the Tenderloin is mostly owned by non-profits who refuse to sell the land to developers. Even though its located in the center of town and the city has a massive housing shortage. Instead we get to have first hand experience what it would be like to be in the Walking Dead. All this is happening within eyesight of city hall which makes it even sadder. I had to do ADA inspections in the Tenderloin several years ago and it was so filthy I had to soak my equipment in bleach once the project was over.



California started to slide down the hill when people stopped trying to make this place better and instead made excuses for every failure. Nobody gets held accountable here and we have no standards. Expect it to continue to get worse and worse.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:13 PM
 
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Total State Expenditures per Capita | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

Republicans in Wyoming and North Dakota spend far more than California. I have no problem with that because the tax rates are extremely low and the quality of services that North Dakota and Wyoming provide are far, far superior compared to California.

North Dakota has a 2 percent middle-class income tax for the 52,000 dollar of someones income, compared to 10 percent in California (income tax and SDI maternity leave tax) and Wyoming has zero income tax.

Republicans do like government spending on good, high quality services. Republicans have higher standards than the insane taxes and horrible services provided by the Democrats.

Gilbert, Arizona provides vastly superior services for a lower cost than Los Angeles. The reason is because Gilbert votes Republican and Los Angeles votes Democratic.

Nebraska and North Dakota are big spenders but have fantastic safety-nets, education, infrastructure and are extremely well-run. They are also very Republican.

North Dakota has 1/5 of the middle-class income tax rate of California, much lower sales and much lower property taxes and provides superior government services to the public than California.

Californians pay top dollar for horrific services. They have a third-word safety-net with millions falling through the cracks of society but they have socialist levels of taxes.

10% income tax for over 52,000 dollars a year for a single person plus many cities have sales taxes above 10% and property taxes are over 1% of the sale price. All that money flowing into that state and they have third-world quality services because it goes to government workers and pensioners.

I am not familiar with New York but I would venture to guess it is the same as California.
DUDE that is a wall of opinion not FACTS.

you are making subjective comparisons between states but providing zero evidence for you conclusions.

your entire post is like your opinion. where is your empireical evidence? i mean it.

How exactly do you determine that "Arizona provides vastly superior services for a lower cost than Los Angeles."
did you hire consultants, did you poll people in both cities?


Maybe jesus whispered it in your ear or maybe you just pulled it out of your bum?

YOU HAVE NOTHING to backup your post, nothing at all. Calling CA's social services third world is simply your prejudices on display for the world.


but best of all is your completely made up claim that as quoted below.

Republicans do like government spending on good, high quality services. Republicans have higher standards than the insane taxes and horrible services provided by the Democrats

that has to be the biggest load of bull i have seen in years. and what is more you know it. it is false on the face of it and can not prove any of it. You have zero proof of any of that. it is just rubbish.
just look at your schools, over all Red states do worse than blue.

just look at this graph that avoids stories and simply shows you how public schools in red state perform vs blue ones. No messing about , no strange data points, just a simple chart showing grad degrees.. what more proof do you need. we can argue nonsense all day but the end result is a crushing blow to Red states. in the end your red states take buckets of federal money and still they just dont do as well.





http://politicsthatwork.com/img/x41....BGgFtNci2.webp
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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I make enough to live wherever I want, including that dump California. I'm not stupid enough to live there though. It appears you are.
But you choose Baltimore?

I live in a couple nice places including Coastal RI. You should try it. Definitely beats Baltimore by a long shot.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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California should charge Red States a 40% tariff on all their innovations, food, wine, etc. to teach them all a lesson.

Without California, the US would DEFINITELY fall into 2nd world status (if it's not already there). CA has, just by itself, one of the largest GDPs on the planet. They must be doing something right.
The politicians in California are too busy screwing the US citizens in California to teach the rest of the US a lesson.

Illegal aliens in California? You are welcome here! US citizen? You better bend over and like it.

California used to be a great state. The real USA needs to roll in, remove the traitors from power and take the state back.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:34 PM
 
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I was looking at some listings and a married couple working in fast-food can afford a house in Wichita. The median family income is 65,000 and they could easily afford a 295,000 mansion that is 5,000 square feet.

The same square footage that is 110,000 in Wichita would be 2.8 million in Brentwood.

5,000 square foot mansion in Wichita for $295,000

With the median family of $65,000 in Wi\\
People are free to love to Wichita. Most Americans, given the choice, will live near water. Actually - most humans will. Some will settle for the nice Rocky Mts, tho......

When I say "near the water", I mean even 2-3 hours.

The OP is ridiculous. Who is gonna "reign in" the biggest economic engine in the world? That's right - no one.

What's big in Wichita? Ah, Koch Industries! Now it all makes sense.......

I'm sure it's a nice place - Pittsburgh, where my son moved, has great parks, culture, is close to amazing amount of nature...and his brick house cost him 115K. He bought a few others (40-70K) and rents them out for investment.

Almost no one can afford to move the Bay Area unless they already have been there and bought a house long ago...so it's really a moot point.

I do have friends who live up in Santa Rosa, Sebastapol and even Eureka - more reasonable, but still expensive. Hey, if you want that fresh produce year round, easy driving to Tahoe, no real winter and the best wines (among many other things), it can be a decent place. Some of the world's best sailing also...

Too crowded for me tho. I like New England...and spend winters in the Poor Man's California (Sarasota, FL).
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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The real USA needs to roll in, remove the traitors from power and take the state back.
Maybe Trump can do a couple towers there.

You should get the Patriot Riders to go there and chase out Apple. Google, Facebook and the thousands of other companies worth 100's of billions. Then you can play country music, wear mullets and wife beater T's and make meth in soda bottles.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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No.

- Signed,

A proud resident of California
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:40 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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I make enough to live wherever I want, including that dump California. I'm not stupid enough to live there though. It appears you are.
You are so angry. Good for you for making so much money.

California is far from a dump. It is a beautiful state aside from the politics. I would move back there in a heart beat if it wasn't so expensive.
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Old 09-21-2017, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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California needs to have martial law. Shut it down.
Because of how safe our cities are? Because San Diego is the safest city with over 1 million people in the US, San Jose is third, and Los Angeles is fourth?

Yeah, we need martial law.
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