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Old 09-20-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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Yale University to implement campus-wide ‘carbon charge’

Yale University is pioneering a first-of-its-kind carbon charge program that will tax its buildings based on their carbon emissions.

The program aims to combat climate change by monitoring the amount of electricity, chilled water, natural gas and steam consumption from its buildings and charge departments a fee if they use more than an established baseline amount, according to campus officials, who in announcing the program blamed climate change for “heat waves, floods, wildfires, crop decline, infectious diseases, violence and conflict.”

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“If [a building] increases emissions by the same percentage as Yale did,” the video explains, “it will receive no charge.” A building that increases its emissions less than the university’s average, or else decreases them, “will receive money back.” A building the emissions of which increase more than the average, meanwhile, “will receive a charge.”

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Asked for more information as to how the carbon charge will function, Pickett told The College Fix via email: “The carbon charge pool starts with $0. Then each unit pays its carbon charge into the pool, and each unit receives funds from the pool. Once all the transactions are complete, the pool again has $0. These transactions actually occur simultaneously, so there is no period in which any funds are held in the pool.


So the departments that run the buildings are on the hook for this.

This is actually a bunch of nothing. All they are doing is shifting money around internally among themselves based upon who is above and below the entire university average for carbon usage... at least at this point, it's an exercise among themselves. There is no REAL penalty.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I wonder how many feel good majors (Vs STEM, business, nursing etc) are in old drafty buildings vs new ones and vice versa.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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And no real way to measure the validity of their experiment, just like the real world.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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After the edict was announced all the departments on campus immediately called Al Gore to figure out how to run carbon credit scams while leaving a carbon footprint the size of Alaska behind.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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They should start by charging their instructors for all the hot air they emit in the classroom.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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I don't understand the problem here. If you have something you want funded, you work to cut back on your emissions. What exactly is wrong with that? What's wrong with trying to voluntarily make things cleaner?

Someone is stupid for picking the more efficient heating unit when the old one needs replaced?
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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They should start by charging their instructors for all the hot air they emit in the classroom.
Now this I like.

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Old 09-20-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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I don't understand the problem here. If you have something you want funded, you work to cut back on your emissions. What exactly is wrong with that? What's wrong with trying to voluntarily make things cleaner?

Someone is stupid for picking the more efficient heating unit when the old one needs replaced?
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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SO you have no argument?
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Yale University to implement campus-wide ‘carbon charge’

Yale University is pioneering a first-of-its-kind carbon charge program that will tax its buildings based on their carbon emissions.

The program aims to combat climate change by monitoring the amount of electricity, chilled water, natural gas and steam consumption from its buildings and charge departments a fee if they use more than an established baseline amount, according to campus officials, who in announcing the program blamed climate change for “heat waves, floods, wildfires, crop decline, infectious diseases, violence and conflict.”

...
“If [a building] increases emissions by the same percentage as Yale did,” the video explains, “it will receive no charge.” A building that increases its emissions less than the university’s average, or else decreases them, “will receive money back.” A building the emissions of which increase more than the average, meanwhile, “will receive a charge.”

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Asked for more information as to how the carbon charge will function, Pickett told The College Fix via email: “The carbon charge pool starts with $0. Then each unit pays its carbon charge into the pool, and each unit receives funds from the pool. Once all the transactions are complete, the pool again has $0. These transactions actually occur simultaneously, so there is no period in which any funds are held in the pool.


So the departments that run the buildings are on the hook for this.

This is actually a bunch of nothing. All they are doing is shifting money around internally among themselves based upon who is above and below the entire university average for carbon usage... at least at this point, it's an exercise among themselves. There is no REAL penalty.
Shrug.

Seems to me it's just smart management to keep building energy costs down.

If Harvard thinks that carbon accounting is a good way to do this, they have the absolute right to try it out.

I'll be interested to see how it works, thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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