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Old 09-22-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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The U.S doesn't need a to add a territory with so much debt as a state. We have enough debt to deal with at the moment.

 
Old 09-22-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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The U.S doesn't need a to add a territory with so much debt as a state. We have enough debt to deal with at the moment.
Well if that's the case I guess we'll have to remove the self described "King of Debt" from the Oval Office.

"Nobody does debt like me!"
- Donald J Trump
 
Old 09-22-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Do you consider Puerto Ricans real Americans?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

But I noticed that Puerto Ricans usually consider themselves Puerto Ricans first and Americans second.

Perhaps that comes from having a defined territory and culture before being assumed into the USA. Kind of like Quebec.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Do you consider Puerto Ricans real Americans?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

But I noticed that Puerto Ricans usually consider themselves Puerto Ricans first and Americans second.

Perhaps that comes from having a defined territory and culture before being assumed into the USA. Kind of like Quebec.
I don't mean this in a combative way, but how do you know this exactly (the bolded part)?

The Puerto Ricans I know are equally proud of both. Kind of like how Texans are often proud to be Texan AND American. Same for Californians, and other regions of America.

Maybe I'm only interacting with Puerto Ricans that live on the mainland, though, and it's different on the island? Please elaborate.


Quebec is an interesting analogy - as someone that knows many Quebec people from my life in hockey, I can say the ones I know are very proud of being french and Canadian. I know there have been secession movements - but I've never encountered anyone in real life that legitimately wanted that. Could be a generational thing, though.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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I don't mean this in a combative way, but how do you know this exactly (the bolded part)?

The Puerto Ricans I know are equally proud of both. Kind of like how Texans are often proud to be Texan AND American. Same for Californians, and other regions of America.

Maybe I'm only interacting with Puerto Ricans that live on the mainland, though, and it's different on the island? Please elaborate.


Quebec is an interesting analogy - as someone that knows many Quebec people from my life in hockey, I can say the ones I know are very proud of being french and Canadian. I know there have been secession movements - but I've never encountered anyone in real life that legitimately wanted that. Could be a generational thing, though.
I lived in New York for quite some time and one cannot avoid meeting a great many Puerto Ricans.

It was just something I noticed. Not citing it as a widespread creed or knocking them for it. Except the ones who tried to kill Truman or set of bombs.

OTOH I have never met a single Quebecois who had anything good to say about being part of Canada. But it's not my country and none of my business.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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I lived in New York for quite some time and one cannot avoid meeting a great many Puerto Ricans.

It was just something I noticed. Not citing it as a widespread creed or knocking them for it. Except the ones who tried to kill Truman or set of bombs.

OTOH I have never met a single Quebecois who had anything good to say about being part of Canada. But it's not my country and none of my business.
Interesting! Thanks for the reply. You likely have more experience with Puerto Ricans than I do, so I appreciate your perspective.


I think the Quebecois thing must be generational...the majority of people I know from Quebec speak fluent English and have lived in other parts of the world and country. I definitely admit I don't many people from Quebec older than 40.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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Interesting! Thanks for the reply. You likely have more experience with Puerto Ricans than I do, so I appreciate your perspective.


I think the Quebecois thing must be generational...the majority of people I know from Quebec speak fluent English and have lived in other parts of the world and country. I definitely admit I don't many people from Quebec older than 40.
No problem.

Both Quebec and PR are "spoils of war." They were both grabbed from one power by another. So it is not surprising that they would both be ambivalent about their status within Canada and the USA respectively.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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I honestly don't run into a lot of people from there but I would imagine people treat them the same as if they are from the regular U.S.
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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Well if that's the case I guess we'll have to remove the self described "King of Debt" from the Oval Office.

"Nobody does debt like me!"
- Donald J Trump
Who will have to remove trump? And why?
 
Old 09-22-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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I don't mean this in a combative way, but how do you know this exactly (the bolded part)?

The Puerto Ricans I know are equally proud of both. Kind of like how Texans are often proud to be Texan AND American. Same for Californians, and other regions of America.

Maybe I'm only interacting with Puerto Ricans that live on the mainland, though, and it's different on the island? Please elaborate.


Quebec is an interesting analogy - as someone that knows many Quebec people from my life in hockey, I can say the ones I know are very proud of being french and Canadian. I know there have been secession movements - but I've never encountered anyone in real life that legitimately wanted that. Could be a generational thing, though.
I see it symbolic.
Puerto Rican flag over an American flag.
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