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Old 09-22-2017, 09:51 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Okay then, ask to talk with the manager, and see if the guy with the dog could be seated at another table. Having a child's temper tantrum is not how things are handled as an adult. Although, with some of the things I've seen on the news the past year or so , maybe that is how people seem to think. Where will society be at in 20 years if we keep heading down this path....SMH
Listen to the video closely for as there is commentary about moving to another location. Look at the photo and compare it to the video. You can tell that its been edited to cut off the heads of the people people behind the camera and there are people in the video who are not in the still photo.



Woman screams at veteran for bringing service dog into restaurant - Story | KTBC
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I have not seen any papers showing that he is a vet. I am not saying that he is not a vet, I am saying that no proof has been presented to make it something other than a claim.....just like you labeled the ladies story as a claim....without proof.
One article says he is a retired Army veteran. He wasn't a Marine.

This is just one of those things... My family has several businesses in the shopping malls and occasionally we give away free stuff to veterans. I only check military ID, I even give free stuff to people with an expired military ID. This is just me. What else do I need? an honorable discharge paper to show that they are discharged honorably? That is just silly. It is not like we give away several hundreds of care packages, all of sudden, we are super heroes that save the world. It is not a big deal.

My friend told me some of the people there don't look like veterans at all. LOL I don't really care. I volunteer at a va hospital, we have this feed a veteran program during the weekends. MOST of them are not veterans, they are just regular homeless people. We still give them free meals, not a big deal.

I believe this person in op is a veteran and I also believe he has PTSD and he has a service dog. Maybe a certificate for the dog or a special tag can eliminate the problem.

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Old 09-22-2017, 09:53 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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This woman claims that she went to pay for the meal she was sharing with her daughter and the gentleman she was with when a woman approached her and told her that the dog has more rights than she does, subsequently calling her the N-word. The woman says she escorted her daughter out of the restaurant and came back (for purposes that aren't clear), whereupon as many as 8 additional folks (who she claims all knew the veteran with the service dog,) surrounded her and began shouting racial slurs. She claims this is when she became unhinged.

Woman from Video Yelling About Service Dog in Restaurant Defends Herself | TMZ.com

You'll note that during her rant in the original video in this thread she makes no mention of racial slurs and instead focuses on the dog's presence, as well as calling the woman who's off camera a b*tch, a wh*re, and tacitly challenges her to engage in a physical altercation as she's asked to calm down by another man in the video.
yup. she pulled the race card out long after the fact, when she realized how badly her demented screeching was coming across to a national audience.
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Listen to the video closely for as there is commentary about moving to another location. Look at the photo and compare it to the video. You can tell that its been edited to cut off the heads of the people people behind the camera and there are people in the video who are not in the still photo.



Woman screams at veteran for bringing service dog into restaurant - Story | KTBC

I guess it all depends on when she started screaming and pushed the dog. If she did this prior to asking for another table, well... GTFO
If not, and it led up to it, there is still no reason to behave like a child. Sorry, right or wrong throwing a temper tantrum isn't the way to act like an adult. I know that is hard for some.

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Old 09-22-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I have not seen any papers showing that he is a vet. I am not saying that he is not a vet, I am saying that no proof has been presented to make it something other than a claim.....just like you labeled the ladies story as a claim....without proof.
You are correct as there is no actual link proving he was a vet. There is only the statements from the people at Kathy's Crab House and Family Restaurant. The restaurant is overboard in it's activity in relation to the military as per their FB acct their shirts are related to the military. But impov that doesn't really matter. If we remove all the extra noise in this thread, it comes down to the laws in relation to Service Dogs and did the usage of this dog by it's owner fit the criteria for the dog to be with him 24/7. Per his own interview it did not.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You are correct as there is no actual link proving he was a vet. There is only the statements from the people at Kathy's Crab House and Family Restaurant. The restaurant is overboard in it's activity in relation to the military as per their FB acct their shirts are related to the military. But impov that doesn't really matter. If we remove all the extra noise in this thread, it comes down to the laws in relation to Service Dogs and did the usage of this dog by it's owner fit the criteria for the dog to be with him 24/7. Per his own interview it did not.
That is not true. The dog is a service dog that has been trained to assist him.

The restaurant owner allowed the dog in, no "extra noise" is necessary or required after that.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I guess it all depends on when she started screaming and pushed the dog. If she did this prior to asking for another table, well... GTFO
If not, and it let up to it, there is still no reason to behave like a child. Sorry, right or wrong throwing a temper tantrum isn't the way to act like an adult. I know that is hard for some.
It is. Notice the poster also claimed the video has been edited.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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The bottom line is that black people, as a general rule, will be seen as the source of the problem in situations like this. Black people in our society are not respected and hence we generally do not get the benefit of the doubt. In other words, people will just assume there is no valid justification for her behavior and reaction. That is just what black people do.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The bottom line is that black people, as a general rule, will be seen as the source of the problem in situations like this. Black people in our society are not respected and hence we generally do not get the benefit of the doubt. In other words, people will just assume there is no valid justification for her behavior and reaction. That is just what black people do.
I have to agree to disagree.

In this case, I think this lady only has herself to blame.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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The bottom line is that black people, as a general rule, will be seen as the source of the problem in situations like this. Black people in our society are not respected and hence we generally do not get the benefit of the doubt. In other words, people will just assume there is no valid justification for her behavior and reaction. That is just what black people do.

Isn't respect earned ? One simply doesn't get it just because of skin color. And since you went there, I'm going to throw my two cents in, flame me if you want.
I live in Metro Detroit, and my city is very diverse one. I happen to live next to a sports bar /restaurant and I can with out a doubt tell you which patrons are louder on a regular basis. Also, the damn music. Why is there a need to drive thru the parking lot with bass hits so strong that it vibrates my windows and sets car alarms off in the parking lot ? Granted, I do like hip hop, but not all do. Do white people go driving by their houses blasting Taylor Swift ? I referenced people talking loudly on the phone in public a few posts back. 9 times out of 10 it is a black woman talking on speaker phone like there isn't a care in the world. I'm sorry, what happened 200 years ago, and all the segregation in the 40's and 50's doesn't entitle people to do as they please.
Is this every black person, absolutely not. But in my area it seems to be the majority, and in my area it is probably close to a 30/70% black white ratio.
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