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The free market is a pie-in-the-sky simplistic ideal that won't work in the real world. In many small to medium sized cities they only have one hospital or one dominant medical group. They have monopoly power and no competition. Or the tiny rural town with only one doctor. In many places throughout the U.S. there would be no competition to set efficient prices.
Furthermore, a free market health system is not a fair or level playing field because the consumer is often not in a position to negotiate. If I'm passed out in an ambulance I cannot be a good consumer and shop around for the best or cheapest care. I'm completely at the whim of the health provider -- the services get provided, I get a bill after the fact, with no opportunity to negotiate.
These are just two reasons why the government MUST tightly regulate and manage healthcare.
The govt has enforced a protected market. Can you imagine how much a television would cost if the state only allowed one manufacturer?
The FDA doesnt protect the public, it just decides who can $ell in the market.
Safety would exist and improve absent a govt monopoly.
So you are in favor of eliminating drug patents and the need for any clinical trials at all that prove a drug is relatively safe and effective?
How will eliminating the need for human clinical trials improve safety?
The FDA currently decides what can be sold. Who can sell it is determined by patents, not the FDA.
So you are in favor of eliminating drug patents and the need for any clinical trials at all that prove a drug is relatively safe and effective?
How will eliminating the need for human clinical trials improve safety?
The FDA currently decides what can be sold. Who can sell it is determined by patents, not the FDA.
Why do you think only the govt can conduct "human clinical trials"?
A patent is the state granting a crony (pal) a monopoly and the practice should be ended.
Im not for eliminating safety, I'm for eliminating the govt version. Govt safety kills.
As long as I have the option to pay for private insurance. No way I would want to deal with any government healthcare.. our government messes everything up. it would be a disaster.
As long as I have the option to pay for private insurance. No way I would want to deal with any government healthcare.. our government messes everything up. it would be a disaster.
I agree with the bold. I liked the word you used "option".
As long as I have the option to pay for private insurance. No way I would want to deal with any government healthcare.. our government messes everything up. it would be a disaster.
Government has NO INCENTIVE to provide good service. We are a captive audience to government, and when we need something the government has no problem ignoring us, or putting us in a long waiting line. There is no profit motive, no competition, and little or no accountability. We can complain to our politicians, but we all know how that goes. Do you want DMV, or VA style health care, then turn it over to government.
The free market is a pie-in-the-sky simplistic ideal that won't work in the real world. In many small to medium sized cities they only have one hospital or one dominant medical group. They have monopoly power and no competition. Or the tiny rural town with only one doctor. In many places throughout the U.S. there would be no competition to set efficient prices.
And why is that? Because the govt "tightly regulates and manages healthcare"
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA
Furthermore, a free market health system is not a fair or level playing field because the consumer is often not in a position to negotiate. If I'm passed out in an ambulance I cannot be a good consumer and shop around for the best or cheapest care. I'm completely at the whim of the health provider -- the services get provided, I get a bill after the fact, with no opportunity to negotiate.
Ever see what an ER charges are now? Why is it so much? Because the govt "tightly regulates and manages Healthcare" and really if your life is in danger, do you want the most inexpensive treatment?
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA
These are just two reasons why the government MUST tightly regulate and manage healthcare.
Why do you think only the govt can conduct "human clinical trials"?
A patent is the state granting a crony (pal) a monopoly and the practice should be ended.
Im not for eliminating safety, I'm for eliminating the govt version. Govt safety kills.
Where did you get that idea? Clinical trials are very expensive and conducting phase I, II, and III trials can take several years. Drug companies conduct and foot the bill on most human clinical trials. This often include clinicals trials in foreign countries. Their undertaking the trials and footing the bill makes sense as they are the ones who will will benefit if their drug is approved. Phase I of a trial usually tests various dosage options for safety. The data from that phase is used by the drug company to determine dosage in Phase II.
When seeking a new drug approval, the drug company submits the results of its clinical trials for review by the FDA. Based on the clinical trial results, the FDA will make a decision.
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Where did you get that idea? Clinical trials are very expensive and conducting phase I, II, and III trials can take several years. Drug companies conduct and foot the bill on most human clinical trials. This often include clinicals trials in foreign countries. Their undertaking the trials and footing the bill makes sense as they are the ones who will will benefit if their drug is approved. Phase I of a trial usually tests various dosage options for safety. The data from that phase is used by the drug company to determine dosage in Phase II.
