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Old 09-29-2017, 09:35 PM
 
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There is some truth to the Russian thing but overall it is really just a distraction for Hillary's horrible campaign. She should have picked Bernie as her running mate instead of pro-globalist, pro-TPP Tim Kaine. Bernie would have helped her much more in carrying the blue wall. Heck, she didn't even visit the states in the rust belt to say "hi", but just assumed she'd carry them. That's why she lost. Putin didnt tell her to neglect the rust belt working class, she did that on her own.

Also, the US has been influencing foreign elections for decades. It's hypocrisy for democrats to cry foul now, when they never batted an eye before. Obama tried to influence the Israeli election in 2014 to get Netinyahu out...not one democrat complained. Now...OMG!!!... Collusion!!!... Yeah, so what!

Again. This is NOT the democrats pushing this agenda. We have both a Senate and Congress committee investigating that is GOP run. Not to mention the FBI. This is not a democratic witch hunt nor could it be as the GOP holds the numbers.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:36 PM
 
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No. It was basically all of the intelligence agencies. Of course you can disagree with them and the UJ.S. miltitary. Not very patriotic but you can take that stance.
Ah the intelligence agencies. Same ones who thought Saddam had WMD's and did nothing to preemptively stop 9/11. And what are they saying now that I need to believe?
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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Ah the intelligence agencies. Same ones who thought Saddam had WMD's and did nothing to preemptively stop 9/11. And what are they saying now that I need to believe?

Okay. Don't. Our military operates under their direction. So you are saying our military sucks too. Just want to get all you opinions down.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:46 PM
 
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Okay. Don't. Our military operates under their direction. So you are saying our military sucks too. Just want to get all you opinions down.
I stand and salute the flag every single time, I don't go to my knees. I am from a family of Vets so don't even go there.

So you support the Vietnam War and Invading Iraq? Explain your support.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:49 PM
 
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I stand and salute the flag every single time, I don't go to my knees. I am from a family of Vets so don't even go there.
I am a vet. As I said before nobody speaks for all vets. And I have seen your posts attempting to do so. That is my point.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:50 PM
 
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I am a vet. As I said before nobody speaks for all vets. And I have seen your posts attempting to do so. That is my point.
Not the troops but the decisions from the top are the issue.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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Not the troops but the decisions from the top are the issue.
Lol. Yeah. The enlisted are without sin. Sorry bud. Been there. Military is like any other cross section of life.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:04 PM
 
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Well there's the agenda, the goals that the Trump Administration is supposed to push forward that they are failing miserably at. And, there is an attempt by the established Republicans like McConnell, Ryan, McCain and others in collaboration with established Democrats like Chuck and Nancy. Neither of these established party leaders like 45 bc he is arrogant, abrasive and has insulted many of them, not to mention he is an outsider.
Trump is exposing the obstruction and corruption whereby neither side of the aisle ever gets anything done. If Trump pushed through his agenda the masses would wonder why no establishment politician could ever get it done. The RINOs are being targeted and will be primaried and replaced by populist, Trump friendly candidates.

Peter Schweizer was on Tucker Carlson tonight (or was it Hannity?) talking about how Congress and staff seem to be exempt from insider stock trading laws and are making a fortune! The longer they stay in The Swamp the more money they make!
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:18 AM
 
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There is some truth to the Russian thing but overall it is really just a distraction for Hillary's horrible campaign. She should have picked Bernie as her running mate instead of pro-globalist, pro-TPP Tim Kaine. Bernie would have helped her carry the blue wall. Heck, she didn't even visit the states in the rust belt to say "hi", but just assumed she'd carry them. That's why she lost. Putin didnt tell her to neglect the rust belt working class, she did that on her own.

Also, the US has been influencing foreign elections for decades. It's hypocrisy for democrats to cry foul now, when they never batted an eye before. Obama tried to influence the Israeli election in 2014 to get Netanyahu out...not one democrat complained. Now...OMG!!!... Collusion!!!... Yeah, so what!
Every one of these statements is true. Every one of them.


Stop making excuses for Hillary, people!!!!
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:41 AM
 
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https://theintercept.com/2017/09/28/...rmissible-yet/

But this is no isolated incident. Quite the contrary: this has happened over and over and over again. Inflammatory claims about Russia get mindlessly hyped by media outlets, almost always based on nothing more than evidence-free claims from government officials, only to collapse under the slightest scrutiny, because they are entirely lacking in evidence.

Last week the story came out that the Russians attempted to hack the US voting systems. This week states have come forward to refute those claims. More fake news.
The OP is very much mistake and should learn to use Google.......



http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

Timeline Of Trump And Russia Mid-2016 Shows Parallels In Messaging : NPR
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