Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-28-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Michigan
29,391 posts, read 55,596,323 times
Reputation: 22044

Advertisements

Columnist argues that we shouldn't be remembering him as a 'liberator of women'

Hugh Hefner Was a 'Disgusting Old Sleaze'
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-28-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
4,996 posts, read 2,445,058 times
Reputation: 2540
'Liberator of women" Nah

Porn King. Yup.

I don't judge him ...people bought his image..and he was a genius at marketing it.

He made himself an icon---and Playboy an integral part of my adolescence.

RIP
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2017, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
23,856 posts, read 13,749,968 times
Reputation: 15482
Quote:
Originally Posted by John1960 View Post
Columnist argues that we shouldn't be remembering him as a 'liberator of women'

Hugh Hefner Was a 'Disgusting Old Sleaze'
I wouldn't call him a liberator.

No question he played an influential role in loosening up prudery and the double standard, and on balance, I think that is a good thing. He was hardly the only reason those changes happened though.

There were a lot of guys in the 70s and 80s, who thought a liberated woman could only prove her liberation by saying Yes, and were genuinely upset when they heard No. I think Hefner had a part in encouraging that, and that is what the columnist says.

Like a lot of us, Hefner was right about some things and wrong about others.

And yes, he was sleazy, but that's not illegal. Plenty of women seemed to find that attractive. Shrug.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-28-2017, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
36,853 posts, read 17,363,818 times
Reputation: 14459
Quote:
Originally Posted by John1960 View Post
Columnist argues that we shouldn't be remembering him as a 'liberator of women'

Hugh Hefner Was a 'Disgusting Old Sleaze'
This chick can take her collective morality back to Stalingrad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Croatia and Worldwideweb
934 posts, read 402,805 times
Reputation: 586
He was a businessman. And every successful businessman fulfils the existing needs on the market. He found a need and provided the solution. Ask any former male teenager where he kept his father's Playboy.

Towards the end of his life, I somehow felt sorry for the delusional old man who surrounded himself with money hungry young girls. Although it might have been the picture he wanted to create in order to remain in the public eye. Good for business
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
11,143 posts, read 10,711,121 times
Reputation: 9799
Hugh Hefner was possibly one of the most influential men of his generation. Yes, he liked beautiful women. He was even possibly a bit on the lecherous side. However, it is arguable that Hefner had a greater impact on culture than just about any other publisher in the world.

He was a consummate businessman, and he learned early on the now common adage "sex sells". He used pictures of beautiful women to sell a magazine that encouraged people to expand outside of their own little world. His magazine featured interviews with some of the most controversial figures of the day, and most of those interviews were done with a very evenhanded approach. Playboy brought controversial topics to the forefront of the American mind, and even though it takes a bit of thought to understand the concept, it did lead to women being more empowered.

People like this journalist are ones who can't see the forest for the trees, and probably never picked up an issue of Playboy to actually learn what it was all about. Yes, there were pictures of beautiful women. There were also pictures and articles about art and culture that may not have been printed had it not been for Hugh Hefner.

That being said, he had his demons, just like most of us do. He wasn't a nice person, but he was an extremely influential one. It's arguable that he was something of a sadist, and he was definitely not a man who valued women for their integrity. Did he use women? Yes. Was he driven by sex? You betcha. Did he do some things that would make other people question his sanity? Without a doubt. Again, he wasn't a nice man. Hefner reminds of the book 50 Shades of Gray. Since his actions were performed by a multi-millionaire those actions were accepted by the masses, even looked up to. Had someone living in a trailer park done the same thing, it would have been an episode of CSI.

Last edited by JimRom; 09-29-2017 at 05:36 AM.. Reason: Wrote half of what I had to say and got distracted...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
7,150 posts, read 4,904,543 times
Reputation: 10444
Creepy old geezer who wore a bathrobe all day long. Eeeewwww!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
30,370 posts, read 19,162,886 times
Reputation: 26262
Quote:
Originally Posted by John1960 View Post
Columnist argues that we shouldn't be remembering him as a 'liberator of women'

Hugh Hefner Was a 'Disgusting Old Sleaze'
He supported Hillary, of course he was a disgusting sleaz.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
33,571 posts, read 18,161,091 times
Reputation: 15546
Hefner had to put a better image to his sleaze with good articles and of course his mansion as he exploited women and made big money . Yeah, he was a sleaze. And of course many women love money so they became sleazy too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-29-2017, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
11,904 posts, read 5,587,643 times
Reputation: 12963
He's definitely a controversial figure. I'm not really interested in trying to judge him. I don't believe he particularly helped women, but I don't think he did anything that hadn't been going on for ages - he merely brought it out of the shadows.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:03 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top