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Old 10-01-2017, 02:38 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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Kasich is thin skin and waited to see what happens last time. I hope retires from public life.
Thank you for putting a big smile on my face today. This is funny as hell; a Trump supporter accusing another politician of having a thin skin!
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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Thank you for putting a big smile on my face today. This is funny as hell; a Trump supporter accusing another politician of having a thin skin!
Isn't it though? The irony is yuuuuge.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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Kasich is a freaking idiot. The sooner he's gone, the better. He has never been a Republican, not even in name only. He's a total fool.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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Well he has been talking about forming a centrist party. This is a trial balloon to gauge public response.
Kasich is no centrist, especially on the environment, social issues, or tax policy.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Ummm in order to leave the GOP he would have to actually be part of it first.

Putting an "R" after your name doesn't make you a conservative.

Good riddance to bad RHINOS.
But Trump is a RINO!
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Old 10-01-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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Kasich is a freaking idiot. The sooner he's gone, the better. He has never been a Republican, not even in name only. He's a total fool.
LMAO...that's a blatant lie, and you know it.

John Kasich is one of the most conservative elected Republicans in the country. You guys are trying to change the narrative on that guy, but it's a phony narrative.
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Old 10-01-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And you support the Democratic party which is so much better right?
These days they're better on most issues.

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How do you spell hip o crit ?
Hypocrite I believe.
There are two spellings:

1. GOP

2. tRump

Carry on.

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Old 10-01-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Kasich supported taking money from social security to balance the budget? I never knew that.

Overall, Kasich seemed decent and after reading this article I agree with him. Both parties need to make some changes.
Kasich and Clinton used "unified" budget accounting where then surpluses in Social Security and Medicare funds were used to offset deficits in the federal general fund.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ab021f57e5eb

However, fiscal years 1999 and 2000 reportedly had surpluses even excluding the Social Security surpluses.

The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton - FactCheck.org

However, this is hogwash too. The federal government does not accrue for retiree pensions and healthcare benefits as would be required under the GAAP accrual basis accounting rules required of public businesses.

Just the retiree benefits for the military would require massive annual accruals.

To my surprise, the federal government did have an accrual basis surplus of $46 billion for fiscal year 2000, so Kasich was correct. Although the formal U.S. budget is on a cash basis, the annual Financial Report of the United States produced by the GAO does attempt to produce a GAAP-basis financial report.

https://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/00frusg.pdf
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Old 10-01-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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Kasich isn't a RINO per se. He's a socially conservative business Republican through and through. His problem is that he forgets that the Republican party is a broad coalition and in blatantly only serving the interests of his narrow section of it he alienates broad swaths of the party. There's an obligation to at the very least show respect to and not get in the way of the rest of it that he has failed to uphold. You can't outright insult the policy priorities of a large swath of your base and expect their support.
Again, what are you folks talking about?

John Kasich is about as far from a RINO as a Republican can be. He's the quintessential Republican elected official. There are no elected conservatives more practically conservative than he is. And I'm not talking about dopes like Roy Moore who supports conservative initiatives that wouldn't pass muster in an Attila The Hun administration...I'm talking about practical conservatism that could actually become law.

When someone like John Kasich is considered to be a conservative apostate, that's a problem.
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Old 10-01-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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This hilarious as an Ohioan I can safely state Kasich is no RINO. It's funny that the GOP has moved so far right that kasich is deemed a rino. He has passed strict abortion laws, damn near closed every planned parenthood clinic in Ohio and has suppressed voting by purging valid voters and limiting early voting. So please tell me how those are actions of a RINO?
Kasich also has provided massive tax benefits for the wealthy in Ohio, while raising the regressive sales tax rate. He also slashed funding, especially adjusted for inflation, for the state and local government fund. This has resulted in 25 percent increases in the municipal income tax rate across Ohio, especially in major cities, and also much higher real estate taxes. Some economically hard-pressed cities can't afford to pay safety forces or buy safety equipment, to say nothing about local infrastructure funding. He eliminated the Ohio inheritance tax. He has provided a zero percent state income tax rate on the first $250,000 of income from pass-through entities, a massive tax break for the wealthy. The Kasich tax policies, benefiting one-percenters and 10-percenters have many resemblances to the current Republican tax plan in Congress.

Kasich, rather than raise gasoline taxes, borrowed billions against Ohio Turnpike toll increases in the future, forcing northern Ohioans to pay for current road infrastructure spending throughout the state at a great cost to the region's manufacturing industry competitiveness in coming years. This is an economic disaster for all of Ohio by marginalizing one of the nation's great manufacturing regions.

Kasich has championed the injection under high pressure of radioactive fracking waste under potable drinking water aquifers throughout eastern Ohio. Much of the waste is shipped in from other states which don't allow such fracking waste water injection wells. Local public hearings on the wells are banned. It's an environment ticking time bomb.

Kasich has refused to label the open waters of Lake Erie "impaired," which would allow the federal EPA to crack down on ag industry pollution in the Lake Erie watershed. The result has been massive toxic algal growths in the western basin of Lake Erie in late summer, imperiling $10 billion tourist industry and even drinking water supplies.

Kasich has expanded the school voucher program in Ohio, but exempts voucher recipient schools from the state's mandatory testing system for public schools after many voucher schools performed worse than publc schools. The owners of for-profit voucher schools in Ohio have been heavy campaign contributors to Republicans.

What has offended Republicans is that Kasich went around the conservative, heavily gerrymandered Ohio legislature to bring Medicaid expansion to Ohio. The resulting billions in federal Medicaid payments have provided a massive infusion to a relatively stagnant Ohio economy. The Ohio hospital and healthcare industries would have crucified Kasich and the Republicans if they actually had blocked Medicaid expansion in Ohio.

While Kasich is more competent than Trump, he isn't much more trust-worthy IMO.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2...lities-in-ohio

Should Kasich challenge Trump in a 2020 primary or as an independent candidate?

Toledo mayor wants Lake Erie declared impaired

Kasich & Republicans torpedo state tax revenues

Trump over Kasich in OHIO!!!???

Would you vote for Governor Kasich as president?

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