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Old 10-03-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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It’s certainly possible, I just want to see how he physically handled 10 suitcases and if the bellhop or anyone else found it suspicious.
He'd been at the hotel since Thursday. Making several trips over the course of four days would have aroused zero suspicion. Hell, put 5 long guns in a golf bag, with club head covers over the barrels, and you can parade them through the lobby all day long.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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Why is this an issue? What is your proposed limit on how many items someone owns before it becomes suspicious? 11? 16? 21? 26.375?

What other items should have ownership quantity rights? Ammo I guess, right? By # of boxes or # of bullets? Knives too? A limit on those? Baseball bats, tire irons, cars, pretty much any item you deem dangerous?
Guns are not knives, cars or baseball bats. They are designed to kill efficiently. That is their sole purpose and they do an excellent job of killing a large number of people in a short period of time. That is their only purpose. A person that purchases 50 guns with a huge amount of ammunition should not mind getting additional scrutiny - unless they have something to hide. Would that scrutiny have stopped Paddock? Maybe, maybe not but what he was able to accumulate with absolutely no limits whatsoever should be a concern and likely is to the 500+ victims of this shooting. He apparently had as many more guns at his house as he had in that hotel room.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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anyone buying a weapon should first have psychological testing (after the background check).

say up to five weapons, then psy test again for the next five. INTENSIVE testing after 15.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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anyone buying a weapon should first have psychological testing (after the background check).

say up to five weapons, then psy test again for the next five. INTENSIVE testing after 15.

Liberals are so weird.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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Guns are not knives, cars or baseball bats. They are designed to kill efficiently. That is their sole purpose and they do an excellent job of killing a large number of people in a short period of time. That is their only purpose. A person that purchases 50 guns with a huge amount of ammunition should not mind getting additional scrutiny - unless they have something to hide. Would that scrutiny have stopped Paddock? Maybe, maybe not but what he was able to accumulate with absolutely no limits whatsoever should be a concern and likely is to the 500+ victims of this shooting. He apparently had as many more guns at his house as he had in that hotel room.
Ahh, the old "surrender your rights if you have nothing to hide" play. That is a terribly weak argument.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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If true, this pretty much kills the theory that he targeted country music attendees for their possible political leanings.

Las Vegas Gunman May Have First Planned to Attack Chance the Rapper and Lorde Concert
If that is true, it goes to the lack of country music having anything to do with this. His brother said he was a country music fan. The music playing seems to have had less to do with it than the ability to target 22,000 people trapped in walls and fences from a nearby high rise building.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I doubt that many of us live in Chicago where gun grabbing laws are some of the most restrictive laws in the country.

You did say war zone?
I know they don't live in Chi. they all live in suburbia where it's nice and safe. LOL

they just ACT like they're surrounded by murderers, rapists, and FELONS! because, didn't you hear? guns are easiest to get in Chi! LAWS have no effect!
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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anyone buying a weapon should first have psychological testing (after the background check).

say up to five weapons, then psy test again for the next five. INTENSIVE testing after 15.
I don't think "infringed" means what you think it means.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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If that is true, it goes to the lack of country music having anything to do with this. His brother said he was a country music fan. The music playing seems to have had less to do with it than the ability to target 22,000 people trapped in walls and fences from a nearby high rise building.
I was just looking at lineup for the ‘Life Is Beautiful’ festival. There's a wide variety of performers. Chance the Rapper is a Christian but Lorde is a feminist (check their Wiki articles). With a diverse lineup like that he clearly was just looking for a big bang (no pun intended) for his buck and since he couldn't land the right spot for one, decided on the next event instead. It just happened to be a country music festival.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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Ahh, the old "surrender your rights if you have nothing to hide" play. That is a terribly weak argument.
Why shouldn't someone that has purchased 50 guns including assault rifles and massive amounts of ammunition be asked a few questions to explain why they need so much? Maybe such a discussion would have discouraged Paddock. Who knows, but if the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter had lived, I would have liked to see her in prison for not keeping her guns away from her son. I do think it is reasonable for gun owners to potentially be held responsible if their guns are accessed by their children who shoots another child. If someone has a single gun or an armory, that should be a commitment. We have apartment buildings that refuse to rent to people that have pit bulls. It is reasonable to think Paddock should have been identified in some part of the process for having purchased so many guns and ammunition. It is highly likely the victims will go after his estate and any insurance he has but there were so many victims the distributed amount will be minimal.
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