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Old 10-02-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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So the bill of rights is just as important now as it was then.
Did I suggest otherwise?
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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And the $20,000 and up price tags of full autos since the ban in 1986.
Yep. But he did own 2 planes the news is saying. Those aren't cheap either.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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What a coincidence, I feel the same about you! Or, perhaps you're just being unintentionally obtuse?



Sure one could say, and it would be meaningless as far as the law of the land goes.



And just where was that?



I've said those exact words. But, doesn't mean I think there should be NO restrictions whatsoever on some things.



By definition, NO inanimate objects act by themselves, doesn't mean certain ones shouldn't be kept out of certain hands. Or would you favor an 8 year old with a paper route being able to save his/her nickels and dimes and be allowed to buy an assault rifle and ammo or a coupla kilos of C4?
Yea that's what we are saying jeez some people just can't think without going to extremes. We already have lots of laws that prevent children from getting c4, to answer your question.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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very true, but people also need to courage to use their firearms in self defense of defense of others. how many people that carry concealed use their firearms, compared to those that cower behind cover with teir weapon still in its holster?
I'm taking cover until I need to engage. I have no qualms about sitting behind a desk with my gun aimed waiting in surprise.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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You forgot, the right will make the shooter out to be the victim just like they did at Sandy Hook.
Are you on medication?
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Yep. But he did own 2 planes the news is saying. Those aren't cheap either.
You don't have to tell me. I own, and operate one. It is the Black Hole of money pits. Supposedly he let his Medical lapse so wasn't flying for a while. But yes, you are correct. If he can afford a plane or two he could afford the $20K to buy a full auto.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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I'm taking cover until I need to engage. I have no qualms about sitting behind a desk with my gun aimed waiting in surprise.
Me either. Pointing a deadly weapon at another human being is not something to be admired or wished for. I know from experience.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Anyone else notice that the graphs say that Illinois, with their strict gun control laws, has less than 100 firearm deaths a year.
2016 Chicago homicides is highest in 19 years, report says - CNN
And that the same graphs say California, with their strict gun control laws, has less than 340 firearm deaths per year.
Violent crime in L.A. jumps for third straight year as police deal with gang, homeless issues - LA Times
Bay Area homicides 2016: Map and details
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Maybe an aggressive crackdown on gangsters with guns is what is needed. But the left opposes stop and frisk which dropped NYC Crime like a rock.

Since you want to make it a left/deal, perhaps the right which apparently supports stop & frisk yet continually whines about the 'police state' should make up its mind?
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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Sure one could say, and it would be meaningless as far as the law of the land goes.
Why would it be meaningless as far as the law of the land goes?
Currently we have restrictions on some explosive materials.
I'm asking you if you think having no restrictions on those materials is better than having them restricted.


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And just where was that?
I quoted you.
I'll do it again.
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It's not the guns, it's the people.

The Las Vegas shooter reportedly owned several aircraft, would we be calling for the banning of light aircraft had he loaded one with a bomb or deliberately crashed one into a crowded venue?
We started here, with your statements.



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I've said those exact words. But, doesn't mean I think there should be NO restrictions whatsoever on some things.



By definition, NO inanimate objects act by themselves, doesn't mean certain ones shouldn't be kept out of certain hands.
I agree.
And I would imagine that the poster that you were responding to with your "it's not the guns, it's the people" line would also agree.

The disagreement is only on what objects should be kept out of certain hands.


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Or would you favor an 8 year old with a paper route being able to save his/her nickels and dimes and be allowed to buy an assault rifle and ammo or a coupla kilos of C4?
Of course not.


So, we've, as a nation, decided that guns (and lots of other things) should be restricted in some instances. Again, the only disagreement is over where exactly the line should be.

I assume you, being a somewhat reasonable person, believe there should be some restrictions on who can fly airplanes.

So, I'm wondering why you thought that you be a good point to bring up.
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