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Old 10-04-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Niagara Region
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There is a drug called Mesalamine, also known as Mesalazine, used in the treatment of Crohns and ulcerative colitis, as well as other things. I investigated it as a possibility for my husband's condition. He is currently seeing a US doctor who said it might be worth a try but that it was costly.

I made a few phone calls and discovered that 30 x 1g capsules would cost a whopping $1,089 in US pharmacies. Completely unaffordable but I thought it might be worth checking to see how much it was in Canada, because we are Canadian and live in Canada.

I am not making this up - same product made by the same manufacturer. The cost here for the same doseage, is USD $60. Yes, sixty dollars.

$60 in Canada versus $1,089 in the US. Someone is getting very rich. Why are Americans being gouged in this way, though?
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Old 10-04-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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Pharmaceuticals cheaper abroad because of regulation - CNN
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Because you do pay, in the form of higher taxes and get national health care?

It's not like I would have to pay the higher amount, I have medical insurance which I pay privately.

My enbrel is like $1000 a shot, or some obscene amount, I take 8 shots a month for 8K.

What I actually pay is $10.
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Because you do pay, in the form of higher taxes and get national health care?

It's not like I would have to pay the higher amount, I have medical insurance which I pay privately.

My enbrel is like $1000 a shot, or some obscene amount, I take 8 shots a month for 8K.

What I actually pay is $10.
The rest of us are covering your expense with our insurance premiums. That's the concept behind insurance: spread the risk to the whole group.

The US is unique in the world: our corrupt legal system increases demand for & expectations from treatment and our insurance system pays for it, further increasing demand. In other countries, socialized medicine sets the payment schedule and malpractice suits are much less lucrative, both factors in keeping costs down.

Further more, the corrupt legal system here also eliminates competition: "best practices" recommendations must be followed or the courts will hold providers liable. This has given us a homogenization of medicine with no deviation from the cookbook allowed or the courts will punish. There are no more five star restaurants in medicine, only MacDonalds. Establishing minimum standards leads to uniform mediocrity.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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The rest of us are covering your expense with our insurance premiums. That's the concept behind insurance: spread the risk to the whole group.

The US is unique in the world: our corrupt legal system increases demand for & expectations from treatment and our insurance system pays for it, further increasing demand. In other countries, socialized medicine sets the payment schedule and malpractice suits are much less lucrative, both factors in keeping costs down.

Further more, the corrupt legal system here also eliminates competition: "best practices" recommendations must be followed or the courts will hold providers liable. This has given us a homogenization of medicine with no deviation from the cookbook allowed or the courts will punish. There are no more five star restaurants in medicine, only MacDonalds. Establishing minimum standards leads to uniform mediocrity.
And yet the people in those countries that have serious medical problems and have money come to the United States so they can receive the best care in the world. Funny how that works
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Niagara Region
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Because you do pay, in the form of higher taxes and get national health care?

It's not like I would have to pay the higher amount, I have medical insurance which I pay privately.

My enbrel is like $1000 a shot, or some obscene amount, I take 8 shots a month for 8K.

What I actually pay is $10.
No. We pay higher taxes for free medical care. Medications are not subsidized at all.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Mostly in my head
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Moved as this is not a H&W question.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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US hospitals and drugs are a rip off. I had a CT scan done recently, and the cost was $4000.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There is a drug called Mesalamine, also known as Mesalazine, used in the treatment of Crohns and ulcerative colitis, as well as other things. I investigated it as a possibility for my husband's condition. He is currently seeing a US doctor who said it might be worth a try but that it was costly.

I made a few phone calls and discovered that 30 x 1g capsules would cost a whopping $1,089 in US pharmacies. Completely unaffordable but I thought it might be worth checking to see how much it was in Canada, because we are Canadian and live in Canada.

I am not making this up - same product made by the same manufacturer. The cost here for the same doseage, is USD $60. Yes, sixty dollars.

$60 in Canada versus $1,089 in the US. Someone is getting very rich. Why are Americans being gouged in this way, though?
Because progressives think government knows best. Progressives think government doesn't reduce quality and raise prices even though all the evidence says otherwise.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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There is a drug called Mesalamine, also known as Mesalazine, used in the treatment of Crohns and ulcerative colitis, as well as other things. I investigated it as a possibility for my husband's condition. He is currently seeing a US doctor who said it might be worth a try but that it was costly.

I made a few phone calls and discovered that 30 x 1g capsules would cost a whopping $1,089 in US pharmacies. Completely unaffordable but I thought it might be worth checking to see how much it was in Canada, because we are Canadian and live in Canada.

I am not making this up - same product made by the same manufacturer. The cost here for the same doseage, is USD $60. Yes, sixty dollars.

$60 in Canada versus $1,089 in the US. Someone is getting very rich. Why are Americans being gouged in this way, though?
Because we don't have a law that drugs can't be sold in the US for more than any other country.

We subsidize drugs in other countries. Pass that law and our costs drop dramatically.

Why wasn't that in the ACA?
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