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Old 10-13-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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The argument could be made that WW2 was fought for freedom, although it's difficult since many righties claim Stalin was far worse than Hitler and he took over many countries Hitler occupied.

Nevertheless, there has be no war the US has engaged in the past 70 years that has been fought to preserve our freedom. Besides, in the vast majority of oppression throughout world history, the oppression almost always comes from within

If the US ever becomes oppressive, it will be at the hands of other Americans
"ever becomes"? our govt spies on us, fondles us at airports, siezes our assets, taxes the wealth out of our pockets with impunity, forces us to purchase products, tells us what kind of cars to drive, ...
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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WWII.

The rest of this rah rah bs is part of a campaigning tactic to get young men and women to sacrifice their lives for old greedy dudes who want to make more money.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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And let hitler take over the world?.. we should act like a bunch of wimps .. we have already been invaded by a bunch of illegals robbing Americans with cheap labor and low wages. Obama the wimp.
Hitler was never gonna take over the world. There is thing called the Atlantic Ocean that stands between us
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Roosevelts sanctions baited the japanese to attack. Roosevelt desperately wanted a reason to enter the war.
If we would have stayed neutral the japanese would have had no reason to attack us.
Of course this isnt the version of events govt schools teach.
I believe this version. The Japanese wanted a free hand in Asia. We stopped the flow oil, and rubber to them. They knew an all out war with the U.S. was futile, and used war as a bargaining tool, but didn't believe we'd go the distance like we did.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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And let hitler take over the world?.. we should act like a bunch of wimps .. we have already been invaded by a bunch of illegals robbing Americans with cheap labor and low wages. Obama the wimp.
But Stalin took over all of Eastern Europe and you righties consider Stalin worse.

So if the world traded one tyrant for a worse tyrant, how is that fighting or preserving freedom?????
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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Name one war where us fighting it literally meant if we didn't fight it we would have been conquered and not allowed to vote or have our rights. The only one I can think of is our fight to become independent against Britain. No soldier alive today has literally fought for our freedom. All the other wars were us fighting on foreign soil usually imposing our belief system and political system on them (Iraq,Afghanistan,Vietnam).
Colonial wars are fought for business. In the case where governments are overthrown, it's to protect entrenched business interests. Force majeure risk of loss doesn't apply if you have the ear of the government.

The following presentation by government advisors makes it clear that the US is using military force to counter China's expansion of its financial interests.

How Trump's advisers schooled him on globalism - SFGate
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:34 AM
 
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They actually used to teach Civics and History in our schools.
Now they just promote Anti-American Leftist Talking Points.
Schools are Political Arms of the Left, just as the Media is.
Yes indeed.

The OP is a demonstration of what you state.

~40,000,000 died in between 1939 & 1945 during WWII. And the party who started this topic seems completely oblivious to this fact.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Name one war where us fighting it literally meant if we didn't fight it we would have been conquered and not allowed to vote or have our rights. The only one I can think of is our fight to become independent against Britain. No soldier alive today has literally fought for our freedom. All the other wars were us fighting on foreign soil usually imposing our belief system and political system on them (Iraq,Afghanistan,Vietnam).
I suppose we could have let Hitler take over all of Europe and then waited to see if that would satisfy him, but I'm kind of glad we didn't.

As for our more recent wars, I agree - they have been unnecessary.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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And let hitler take over the world?.. we should act like a bunch of wimps .. we have already been invaded by a bunch of illegals robbing Americans with cheap labor and low wages. Obama the wimp.
And back to my original point. Was Hitler and his troops occupying our country and overthrowing the government? The answer is NO.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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South Korea is the source of Samsung, Hyundai, LG and Gangnam Style. It's not half of Kim Bad Hair's nuclear nuthouse.

*Because of America*
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