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Do you think your sometimes overt and sometimes passive aggressive attempts to get those who disagree with you to feel what you see as the guilt they need to feel is going to work.....ending up with changed minds?
Or do you want to get said people on the record in a centralized place that you can use in the future for purposes of demonizing them in other threads?
Back to emergency rooms and dumping the cost onto hospitals and the feds.
Every ER should have a 24/7 health clinic next to it. Unless they are bleeding out or in real trauma, move the patient over to the clinic that could be manned in part by med students and nurses.
The poor should only be given the bare minimum of healthcare. Why should they deserve free heart or liver transplants? Or transgender operations?
The main problem with our healthcare system is how much it costs in the US and Obamacare didn't address that. And Obamacare didn't force healthy young people into buying into the system in any real way.
So why insist on taxes to provide for the poor? The right believes in personal responsibilty to support oneself and one's dependents, and absent that among some, voluntary charity.
Like I said... St Jude's and the Shriners have charity hospitals for kids. Why don't liberals open and voluntarily fund charity hospitals/clinics for the poor?
I also believe in private charity but it is woefully inefficient at solving poverty. I also think people should work if they are able. However take away all the government anti poverty programs and the US would become a third world country overnight. I'd rather live in a place that takes care of the poor. The US is the richest nation on earth they could easily do it.
I also believe in private charity but it is woefully inefficient at solving poverty.
How can that possibly be when so many left-wingers are constantly whining about "caring for the poor?" Why aren't they putting their money where their mouths are and adequately funding charities to meet their needs?
How can that possibly be when so many left-wingers are constantly whining about "caring for the poor?" Why aren't they putting their money where their mouths are and adequately funding charities to meet their needs?
Plenty are not sure why you think they aren't helping. The fact you are so averse to taxation is the real problem you don't want any of your money going to the government because you hate the government. Then people like you vote against things that help the poor. Then you blame the poor after you have kicked the ladder away from them. You also seem a bit confused most democrats are not left wingers they are center right. Real leftists focus on helping the working class not the rich like the republicans and democrats.
Plenty are not sure why you think they aren't helping.
If that were true, everyone else wouldn't have to be taxed to meet their needs.
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The fact you are so averse to taxation is the real problem you don't want any of your money going to the government because you hate the government.
Not true. The Fed Gov actually does have legitimate purposes: Constitutionally mandated responsibilities.
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Then people like you vote against things that help the poor. Then you blame the poor after you have kicked the ladder away from them.
I'm going to explain to you again WHY the US has so many poor...
48% of all US births are paid by Medicaid. And 43% of CHIP/Medicaid free health care for the poor enrollees are under age 18. Completely unreasonable in a country in which the poverty rate is only 13.5%.
What started out as a humanitarian effort to ease hardship, has turned into a system that actually encourages and rewards irresponsibility. That is a completely unsustainable problem.
So because you and yours could, everyone can? My grandparents also paid cash when my dad was born. When we cleaned out her house after she died we found the bill. Grand total was $61.
2 years ago when my niece was born, her delivery was close to $200,000. It was a healthy pregnancy, but there were complications in the last days that resulted in an emergency C-section, but all fairly routine as far as those things go.
Even a completely healthy pregnancy and delivery costs upwards of $20,000.
Why should anybody be forced to pay for your children?
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