Hey California: want $$ help for the fires? Then end sanctuary cities (house of representatives, enemies)
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Uh..what new rules have they made? They are not helping the Feds..and no law states that they must. INS and ICE..need to do their jobs..and stop thinking that the States have to help. ICE and the FBI don't chase drunk drivers..and the local Sheriff need not chase illegals--or hold them at State expense for the feds to pick up...simple as that.
Of course, you know this.
Their "rules" are to allow illegals to remain in their state, issue drivers licenses, allow them to vote, pay benefits to them, and to basically turn a blind eye. Further, they have actually invited them by the very announcement that they will not question their status, or enforce any other laws of the Federal Government.
Is the local sheriff not required to enforce the laws of the United States as well as the laws of the State? In other words, should he just ignore anyone committing a felony?
What if the States said they would not cooperate with the FBI in a murder investigation?
I'm happy you are so skilled at parroting the Democrats. Impressed. (NOT)
Well, when there are no more blue collared jobs for Americans because illegal aliens took their jobs who's going to buy their products....only illegal aliens?
I just learned the finish carpenter that a family friend uses for all kinds of remodeling is illegal. He makes 100K a year, easy. He can buy what he wants.
Yeas, the bus boy at the chain restaurant is making not very much. As soon as his English is good enough to be a waiter, he can make 50-75 a year. No so bad when his wife makes $150 a day tax free cleaning houses..
This is complete BS.
Californians pay their taxes just like everyone else, and California is still a state in our union.
They paid their share when Katrina drowned New Orleans, when the Gulf oil leak created a Billion dollar's worth of contamination, when New York City and most of coastal Delaware was wiped out in flooding, when every little town in Ohio that had a levee was flooded by the Mississippi, and when the entire northwest lit up 2 years ago, 8 years ago, and 12 years ago.
We all pay our share for the natural disasters that only hit a part of our nation. It's called the General Welfare in our constitution. Sooner or later, no matter where anyone in the United States lives, their turn is coming.
We all live in a continent that has more tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes, fire, flood, drought, and general natural commotion than anywhere else.
And if California's state government decides to defy a federal order, it has the right to do so.
My own home state has done it a few times, as have most states at one time or another. That's why we have courts. The courts decided such matters, not some internet forum, Thank God.
If you don't like it, tough. That's how democracy is. We all hang together or we shall all hang separately.
Never forget your turn is coming, and when it does, you will need all the relief you can get.
I just learned the finish carpenter that a family friend uses for all kinds of remodeling is illegal. He makes 100K a year, easy. He can buy what he wants.
Yeas, the bus boy at the chain restaurant is making not very much. As soon as his English is good enough to be a waiter, he can make 50-75 a year. No so bad when his wife makes $150 a day tax free cleaning houses..
I don't see how this addresses the unemployment problem among blue-collared American workers because of illegal immigration. Most illegals aren't making big bucks either. So 11 million illegal aliens are going to support our economy all by themselves ? Most don't even pay income taxes.
Close down your sanctuary cities, start cooperating with the feds and following the law regarding immigration, and then we'll talk about financial assistance if you need it.
Until then.....you are on your own.
You can't have it both ways.
You are either part of the country, or you aren't.
if you look at all the federal money that goes to California...it is way more than what cali pays in taxes
what you don't count:
all your national guard troops and facilities.....paid for by the federal government
all the military bases (32 of them), and the 40 thousand federal troops....paid for by the federal government.......and all those Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Sailors who work there...spend FEDERAL MONEY IN CALIFORNIA
all the defense contractors.... (55 billion worth)
the 28 national parks, and its federal employees (which you receive federal monies for)
36 national natural landmarks (for which you receive federal money for upkeep)....
145 national historic landmarks(for which you receive federal money for upkeep...
9 wild and scenic rivers...managed and paid by the national parks service....paid for by the federal government
then there is the money Cali OWES the federal government....California borrowed $10 billion from the federal government to shore up its recession-battered Unemployment Insurance Fund. Even though the state’s economy is now booming, it still owes the feds about $8 billion.
California is paying interest on the loan, an estimated $174.5 million this year, according to a new report from the state Employment Development Department, and the balance is shrinking only because in lieu of direct payments, the Department of Labor has raised taxes on employers.
not to mention all the 'other' federal agencies that have FEDERAL employees in California....200,000 FEDERAL employees (most making atleast 60k)... you lose all that FEDERAL incomes and revenue that the FEDERAL government GIVES your state...these employees SPEND money in your state
then look at all the FEDERAL money going to secondary schools:
BS USC-Berkeley --$370 million in funding from the federal government
USC- Los Angeles-- $250 million in 2016
UCLA and its two sister campus' get 9 billion in federal funds annually
.....$3 billion in research grants. Nearly four-fifths of the funds are awarded by the National Institutes of Health and the National Science Foundation. UC is the nation’s largest recipient of federal funding for research and related projects, with UC San Francisco, UC San Diego and UCLA receiving the largest grants.
.....$3.5 billion to UC medical centers for Medicare and Medicaid patients.
.....$1.6 billion in financial aid to UC students for federal Pell Grants, work-study awards, graduate fellowships and other grants and scholarships.
.....$800 million to operate the federal Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.
UCLA’s budget is approximately $6.7 billion. State funding accounts for only six percent of total revenues
About 39 percent of undergraduates receive Pell Grants, federal aid
University of California, San Diego....Total federal R&D grant money 2016 : $637 million
Stanford University........................ Total federal R&D grant money 2016 : $656 million....Stanford took in nearly $72 million from the Department of Defense and $445 million from HHS
when you look at federal money going to California...they get BILLIONS move, than they pay into the federal coffers
No they don't. California HAS MORE PEOPLE than any other state, BY SO FAR
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