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I put Kennedy on that list for one reason. His cool head stopped a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. The hot heads in the Joint Chiefs were putting a lot of pressure on Kennedy to do a first strike on Cuba not realizing there were already tactical nukes in Cuba and Kruschev didn't have full control of their use.
Kennedy didn't succumb to the pressure and pretty much saved millions of lives. The rest is history. Completely different than the warmongers we have seen in the Presidency from Clinton to Obama.
I put Kennedy on that list for one reason. His cool head stopped a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union. The hot heads in the Joint Chiefs were putting a lot of pressure on Kennedy to do a first strike on Cuba not realizing there were already tactical nukes in Cuba and Kruschev didn't have full control of their use.
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The only reason there was a Cuban Missile Crises was that he botched the Bay of Pigs Invasion.
I will give him credit...he did not blow up the world to compensate for his stupid decisions on the Bay of Pigs. Probably saved my life.....since I was just across from New York in New Jersey.
I still remember the fear in my parents and I was only 10 ten at the time. They survived Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler. I think they pretty much knew the horrors of war.
Washington participated in the founding of the American Experiment, and Lincoln guided it through its darkest hour; FDR and Reagan were ideological opposites who balanced out each other's excesses -- a demonstration of the moderating effects of pluralism at work; Truman and Eisenhower served well during troubled times, and Adams and Taft were dedicated statesmen who returned to that role on completion of their time in the White House.
Jackson and Johnson were populists who appealed to the basest and shallowest instincts of their clientele; Wilson was a dupe for the vengeful European politicians at Versailles, who set the stage for more bloodshed
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"We"? , how old are you?
Also, saying the union had "a right" to a seceded state's land and property, is literally the argument that explains how the union started the civil war.
The South didn't attack or invade the north. This is why it used to be called the war of northern aggression.
Are you OK with Texas's debt being paid off when it joined the Union, and then seceding debt-free? If I was on the other side of that table I'd have some problems. While the Deep South may not have had much in the way of Federally financed internal improvements Virginia, Tennessee and Missouri did. While Missouri didn't secede it sure tried to. The Union was not and is not a game of "heads I lose tails you win." And once upon a time, it was New England that was threatening to secede. You can't run a country with states taking turns in taking their marbles home.
Same way Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, and Benjamin Harrison have one vote, probably random voting. And where does FDR come up with so many votes?
FDR had faults for sure, but he did inspire hope and introduce programs to those Americans who lived during the Great Depression and WW2. He’s also known for interning Japanese-Americans, letting Jews die and not really doing as much as he could for blacks. I’m surprised that more rate LBJ so poorly. Here was a man who got more productive legislation passed than any POTUS in the 20th Century. Of course, he had to deal with Vietnam (which he inherited)
Can we rate the Canadian PM's? I know them by heart only back to Laurier and even then I get a few wrong between 1920 and 1936. For greats I would put Macdonald and Harper. For the bottom of the barrel I'd put Chretien, TrueDope (both big hair and bowtie), and especially (talks to dead mother and dogs) King.
You seem to think highly of conservative pms but deplore liberal pms same with your American presidents repubs get your high marks liberals are to be detested, see a pattern jb?
FDR had faults for sure, but he did inspire hope and introduce programs to those Americans who lived during the Great Depression and WW2. He’s also known for interning Japanese-Americans, letting Jews die and not really doing as much as he could for blacks. I’m surprised that more rate LBJ so poorly. Here was a man who got more productive legislation passed than any POTUS in the 20th Century. Of course, he had to deal with Vietnam (which he inherited)
90% of the deaths that occurred in Vietnam occurred during his Reign, because of him not JFK and not Nixon. Nixon got us out Vietnam, created the EPA, and opened relationships with China. Not bad for a tricky dick. If you go by Deaths in the world caused by presidents and their warmongering, Nixon is better than LBJ, and Trump is much better then Obama, Bush and probably Bill.
You seem to think highly of conservative pms but deplore liberal pms same with your American presidents repubs get your high marks liberals are to be detested, see a pattern jb?
I have no problem at all with Frasier and Laurier. Or Truman or Bill Clinton for that matter.
FDR had faults for sure, but he did inspire hope and introduce programs to those Americans who lived during the Great Depression and WW2. He’s also known for interning Japanese-Americans, letting Jews die and not really doing as much as he could for blacks. I’m surprised that more rate LBJ so poorly. Here was a man who got more productive legislation passed than any POTUS in the 20th Century. Of course, he had to deal with Vietnam (which he inherited)
FDR is often lionized as the creator of the New Deal, and a miraculous "Hundred Days" which, according to the myth, ended the Great Depression.
But the historical fact is that although the "Hundred Days" legislation was enacted in the Spring of 1933, the economy did not show substantial improvement until May of 1935, and the principal causative factor was likely the Supreme Court's strike-down of the National Recovery Act -- an action FDR and his sycophants fought to the last ditch, and later tried to block by expanding and "stacking" the Supreme Court.
Not all of us see the oxymoron of "productive legislation" as a positive; FDR deserves high marks for his grasp of the threat of totalitarianism -- but his appeals to economic ignorance are another matter.
FDR is often lionized as the creator of the New Deal, and a miraculous "Hundred Days" which, according to the myth, ended the Great Depression.
But the historical fact is that although the "Hundred Days" legislation was enacted in the Spring of 1933, the economy did not show substantial improvement until May of 1935, and the principal causative factor was likely the Supreme Court's strike-down of the National Recovery Act -- an action FDR and his sycophants fought to the last ditch, and later tried to block by expanding and "stacking" the Supreme Court.
The Court stacking was attempted in February-March 1937. What happened was after some improvement starting in 1935, there was a relapse after the 1936 elections. WW II wound up really fueling a boom.
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