Democrat Wilson who slammed Trump for Gold Star call, voted often against aid for Veterans! (Iraq, wages)
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The idea that someone died while doing something they loved and the idea that that persons survivors are comforted by that thought is hardly a novel concept.
I just read an obituary last week that said, "We are comforted by knowing he died doing what he loved." This was in reference to someone who was part of a motorcycle group who died in a motorcycle accident.
The obit was written by the surviving spouse/children.
Its a common thing said when people die doing something they love........ususally something dangerous with higher likelihood of death than other things.
The leftist outrage over this sentiment is entirely manufactured out of hatred for Trump. That wouldn't matter except that their exploitation of a dead soldier and his grieving family is truly revolting and vile.
In any case, that's not what Trump said. That's what Kelly said he told him to say after discouraging him from making the call at all.
According to Wilson and the family, Trump said Sgt. La David Johnson (or "guy" as Trump called him) knew what he was getting into when he signed up, but that still it must hurt.
I listened to Kelly's entire speech, I don't think some people here did. It was extremely powerful and he addressed the demise of respect, religion, treatment of women and self sacrifice. I have an issue with the congress woman injecting herself in the conversation and I also have an issue with Trump leading us down this path. If you listened to his statement and come away with anything other than respect for him then you weren't paying attention.
He appeared to be insinuating that the words chosen were his, this should have never gotten to this point.
Impossibly hypocritical and clueless is John Kelly. His comments about "women being sacred (but no longer), life, the dignity of life is gone, religion, seems to be gone" were the remarks of a tired old man clinging to an America that can't exist again.
We aren't paying this guy to wax incorrectly about the state of American culture. We are paying him to overlook all of Trump's statements and attack the other side for bringing them up. Well, 32% of you are.
Sorry John, you shouldn't have taken the job even thought your wife said it was OK. Your heart isn't in it and you've had no success in the adult day care center that is the white house. Such a putz.
As a sign of respect, when we talk about Sgt. La David Johnson let's use his name shall we.
He wasn't just a soldier or a guy, Sgt. La David Johnson was a husband, a father, a son, the "Wheelie King," beloved in his hometown and by the men he served with who described him as always trying to do better today than he did yesterday.
Trump is a chronic f-up. This is just the latest at a terrible time for that family. The man has NO clue.
The widow can have anyone in the car with her that she chooses when she goes to meet her husband's body, which she did. Including the mother and the congresswoman, a family friend from the man's young years. The call was on speakerphone for all to hear. Trump reportedly never spoke her husband's name calling him "your guy" several times. Aagh! He's no longer here but he had a NAME. And Trump probably had it right in front of him.
Had he said just a few kind words, about Johnson's bravery and doing a heroic job, about being grateful for his service, that his family could be proud, etc. he would have left some comfort. Instead, he did what he always does and injected some Trumpian assholism; a warped distortion of what Kelly tried to convey. The family could have swallowed their outrage, hurt and anger, but why should they or the Congresswoman have to? To protect Trump? Puh-leeze! He deserves no quarter and no candycoating of his awful behavior at the sacrifice of others he inflicts himself upon. Most know he does this kind of stuff ALL the time.
Trump knew Kelly didn't choose to talk about the death of his son. Yet, to make TRUMP look better and Obama bad, he lassoed Kelly right into the conversation where he didn't want to be.
Kelly did clarify each president handles these sensitive contacts their own way and that he understood that. He discouraged Trump from making the calls. Had Kelly just gone on to speak about his own loss, it would have left a poignant, compassionate impression with most listeners. Kelly appears to have principles Trump has never had. Hard to believe those, often old school, tenets allow him to abide Trump.
But, Trump has been a grown man for 50 years. Kelly protected him like he was his 5 year old who got in trouble at daycare. When you start rationalizing Trump's despicable behavior, you go over to the dark side. Kelly serves a good purpose as a guide, but when he steps forward to defend Trump in any way other than, "Yes, I did say that to him," he loses credibility with many, many who might see him as a sensible, even keeled man. If Trump has a recording of the call, let him provide it. Somehow his proof gets threatened but never materializes.
For Kelly to attack the congresswoman, a family friend, or normally grieving family is unconscionable. Totally out of line. He can talk Trump into releasing the audio to verify inaccuracies in perception. His voice is valid for his own loss. Not his place to tell someone else on the receiving end of things how they should behave. Nor even his interpretation of what happened in this circumstance. His perception isn't truth. Defending Trump in the way that he did proved that.
Knowing Trump's history, he pressures people to go to bat to cover for his f-ups. AND he will be beating a drum this week to put other people in the crosshairs and to try to extract his own bacon from the fire. True to form he will have another major jerk move in short order to deflect from his deflection. It's what he does.
Agree with much of this. Honestly, there are times when there's nothing one can do or say to make a bad situation better.
Although, there always seems to be something that can be done or said to make it worse. Sometimes it seems the focus should be on simply 'not making it worse'.
Mr. Kelly is probably kicking himself for assuming Mr. Trump understood what he was trying to convey to him by relating to him, from his own personal & heart-wrenching experience, what a very good friend said to him when his son was sacrificed. He's probably kicking himself for not giving Mr. Trump a simple text to read to the family members when making the call. At the least to ensure that Mr. Trump would not be 'making an awful situation that much worse'. Mr. Kelly's good friend knew him, & knew his son, what was said was based on knowing who they both were as people.
Impossibly hypocritical and clueless is John Kelly. His comments about "women being sacred (but no longer), life, the dignity of life is gone, religion, seems to be gone" were the remarks of a tired old man clinging to an America that can't exist again.
We aren't paying this guy to wax incorrectly about the state of American culture. We are paying him to overlook all of Trump's statements and attack the other side for bringing them up. Well, 32% of you are.
Sorry John, you shouldn't have taken the job even thought your wife said it was OK. Your heart isn't in it and you've had no success in the adult day care center that is the white house. Such a putz.
I heard Kelly's comments about the America that is on the wane as coded digs at Trump's role in the demise of these American values.
This press conference was the price he had to pay to keep from being fired.
Did Trump know he was as on speaker phone or did he think he was speaking to just the family member?
(easy libs...I know that's a softball for a few shots at your pal Trump but I'm trying to understand the sequence of events here)
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