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Several of us have cited the warning signs...
The demonizing of a group of people (Hillary calling Trump supporters "deplorables").
Increased calls for gun control/bans (from the left).
Increased calls for confiscation and redistribution of wealth (by the left).
Are you really so blind, and so biased, not to acknowledge that Hilary's term of "deplorables" was not only kind of charming, but completely mild in comparison to the terms that Trump has used for so many people?
By the way, the "confiscation" that you object to is called "taxes." They exist in all First World countries. If you find it that objectionable, perhaps you can find some failed African state that won't tax you.
Yeah. Socialism, gun control, radical leftist movements...those are the first signs of Nazism.
Nationalistic Capitalism, rabid nativism and direct opposition to trade unions were the signs of Nazism. Pretty much the exact opposite of what this misinformed (or disingenuous) person is saying.
in a word....yes, at least comparable to American liberals
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We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations, nationalization of all trusts(banks),social security, emanate domain(agrarian reform) , removing the guns from the people, demand the end of capitalism, state(country) provided education, blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),.. 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),, singlepayer health, redistribution of wealth).....COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE LIBERALS, THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG...............................THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS
the Nazi's were calling themselves socialists...but they were actually fascists
fascism came to America under progressive Wilson, and the fascist liberal FDR..
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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."
hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense...................certainly not the conservatives who want little regulation and low taxes
Mussolini's Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures.
Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.
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"A Marxist/progressive/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky
Nationalistic Capitalism, rabid nativism and direct opposition to trade unions were the signs of Nazism. Pretty much the exact opposite of what this misinformed (or disingenuous) person is saying.
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both Hitler and Mussolini were avid supporters of unions
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"As things stand today, the unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence".
sounds like something pelosi,or reid would say...yet it was hitler who said it(chap 12 of mein kampf)
The primary goal of Germany’s national socialists was to “create a classless” society. Hitler’s unions were central in this cause. In fact, Hitler gave the unions their long-awaited demand, one that the Weimar unions were never able to pull off, a National Labor Day, May 1, 1933.
same with mussolini....pro-union...He attempted to centralize control of industry by declaring a "Corporate State" which divided all Italian industry up into 22 "corporations". In these corporations both workers and managers were supposed to co-operate to run industry together -- but under Fascist guidance, of course. The Corporate State was supposed to ensure social justice and give the workers substantial control of industry.
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"""Therefore I desire that this assembly shall accept the re-vindication of national trades unionism""" mussolinni ..pro-union
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The Socialist party reaffirms its eternal faith in the future of the Workers' International, destined to bloom again, greater and stronger, from the blood and conflagration of peoples. It is in the name of the International and of Socialism that we invite you, proletarians of Italy, to uphold your unshakeable opposition to war". ...Musilini
hitler came into power because germany (after ww1) was in economic depression and he was the candidate of 'hope and change',, his plans slowly moved from being helpful to dreadful,,he took true socialism, and spun it with fascism and the next thing you know he is a dictator
the germans nationalized them (the unions) just like they did everything else. you know, central planning, a key component of socialism. as i stated, their goal was "a classless society". what's the problem with the government running the unions? leftists love the government to run everything! they routinely fight for more government control and regulation everyday. so, from my pov, a union (EXACTLY what the daf was) controlled by a strong central government should be lauded by the left, unless they're being hypocrites, that is. bottom line, the nazis had unions. any assertion otherwise is a complete and total lie, or ignorance.
A Union is nothing more than a Monopoly on Labor. Call it a Labor Trust, Labor Cartel, corporation, or Monopoly the practice is the same. The Few (leaders) have such powerful influence over the market (labor) that they control nearly every aspect of it.
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Nationalism is inherently a left-wing philosophy
if you think different are you calling marx and engel right wing????
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Fascist Italy had in the thirties what was arguably the most comprehensive welfare State in the world at that time, in fact, that Italian Fascism was noticeably closer to Communism than Nazism was. This is not only because of the influence of Marxism on Mussolini's ideology but because Mussolini's nationalism was sentimental and nostalgic rather than the intellectual and ideological nationalism of Hitler. Thus it is primarily the degree of ideological focus on nationalism that distinguishes the three forms of authoritarian socialism: Nazism, Fascism and Communism.
The Socialist party reaffirms its eternal faith in the future of the Workers' International, destined to bloom again, greater and stronger, from the blood and conflagration of peoples. It is in the name of the International and of Socialism that we invite you, proletarians of Italy, to uphold your unshakeable opposition to war". Musilini
“Even with Europe in decay, still a war should have roused the healthy elements; a war should have awakened a lot of hidden powers, and surely so much energy would have been present among 250 million people that at least a respectable battle would have occurred, in which both parties could have reaped some honor, as much honor as courage and bravery can gain on the battlefield.” carl marx
And if Marx was not a Leftist, who would be? Mussolini's "Fascist" ideas were in fact Marxist, and hence Leftist.
the history is there, just because you dont like that people like mussilini and hitler tarnished the name of progressives, doesnt mean it didnt happen
in a word....yes, at least comparable to American liberals
simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations, nationalization of all trusts(banks),social security, emanate domain(agrarian reform) , removing the guns from the people, demand the end of capitalism, state(country) provided education, blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),.. 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),, singlepayer health, redistribution of wealth).....COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE LIBERALS, THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG...............................THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS
the Nazi's were calling themselves socialists...but they were actually fascists
fascism came to America under progressive Wilson, and the fascist liberal FDR..
hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense...................certainly not the conservatives who want little regulation and low taxes
Mussolini's Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures.
Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.
Wow, that was a lot of BS. Now a dose of reality:
In the 1920s the Italian Fascists described their ideology as right-wing in the political program The Doctrine of Fascism, stating: "We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century".
The end.
google. wikipedia. whatever.
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