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Old 10-23-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You want to end poverty. Teach young kids:
1.) not to have kids out of wedlock,
2.) get the best education, because dumb, stupid, ignorant people, like their mom and the dad they don't know, are not wealthy and never will be,
3.) teach them to manage money properly,
4.) to earn money from their constantly improving talents and knowledge. Learn more, earn more,


People are in poverty, because they cannot manage their money
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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This is just a bogus link since congress hasn't decided anything yet
It is the current policy for 2018 and will be if congress doesn't change it.
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Old 10-23-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Poor people are having more children than non-poor therefore in the future there will be a lot more poor people.

Your train of thought is flawed. And you completely missed my point. Poverty is an social phenomenon, consequent of social circumstance.

Medicaid is a social program, just like education. The same way you raise your children (if you have any), the government assist people who are not productive citizens, but will hopefully be in the future.

Poverty will not increase because poor people will continue to have children, but because wages will increasingly fail to provide families with living standard.
People raised in poverty and provided inferior education don't ever earn living wages. Want proof? Look at Blacks' poverty rate (they're the highest), academic achievement rate (they're the lowest), average income (also the lowest), and unemployment rate (they're the highest).
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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Conservatives assume that deregulation and a return to the free market will solve everything, promoting a revival of the work ethic and a resurgence of ‘traditional values.’ Not only do they provide an inadequate explanation of the destruction of those values but they unwittingly side with the social forces that have contributed to their destruction, for example in their advocacy of unlimited growth.

The hope of a new politics does not lie in formulating a left-wing reply to the right, It lies in rejecting conventional political categories and redefining the terms of political debate.

Christopher Lasch

It's unclear to me even if the system we have now should even be called capitalism at least by many of the classic understanding of the term. It's largely based on rent seeking, profits are largely not from investing in production or even commerce; it's from the artificial production of debt. The human cost of this is enormous. I mean even if you compare Germany and the UK, two places which should be at the same economic level, wages have gone up something like 20% in real terms in Germany in the last [what is it] two decades or so. But during the same period they went down effectively here. We have nurses using food banks, we have [you know] poverty level life experiences for people that are working quite hard and it's all completely unnecessary...
David Graeber


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYHT4zJsCdo
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Old 10-23-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXUfsYbGK9s
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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A rent seeker is someone who figures out a way to manipulate the system to extract wealth for themselves but they give very little back or give nothing back. So they actually destroy wealth for society. Because the big issue in politics is the democrats and the republicans, they won't talk to each other, there's no bipartisanship, they can't get anything done, it's all stalemate and why is that? And I said, you know, historically the parties could get along. You go back to dwight eisenhower he was sort of a good liberal, he spent a lot of government money on education, technology and infrastructure. John Kennedy, a democrat was very conservative, he cut taxes and stood up to communism. So the parties can get together but there's something holding them back.

These rent seekers in the democratic party: it's public sector unions who are double dipping, pumping up their last couple years pay so they can get inflated retire benefits, retiring at 55 with lifetime medical and the rest of america is working till they're 70 and paying their own way. On the republican side you've got wall street, you've got the banks, jamie dimon, lloyd blankfein, goldman sachs, etc. They figured out a rigged game, they're getting very wealthy, they doing fine for themselves, but they're really hurting society with derivatives and [ ]. If each part could get rid of the rent seekers in its own party, if the democrats could separate themselves from the unions and the republics could separate themselves from wall street, leave the rent seekers to their own devices, I think liberals and conservatives could actually come together with some solutions.

James Rickards.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So let's not lie about this at least.

This is the fun part, where you think Congress has nothing to do with your concerns, while a dictator runs the ship.

Who is telling the big lie, here?
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Conservatives assume that deregulation and a return to the free market will solve everything, promoting a revival of the work ethic and a resurgence of ‘traditional values.’ Not only do they provide an inadequate explanation of the destruction of those values but they unwittingly side with the social forces that have contributed to their destruction, for example in their advocacy of unlimited growth.

The hope of a new politics does not lie in formulating a left-wing reply to the right, It lies in rejecting conventional political categories and redefining the terms of political debate.

Christopher Lasch

It's unclear to me even if the system we have now should even be called capitalism at least by many of the classic understanding of the term. It's largely based on rent seeking, profits are largely not from investing in production or even commerce; it's from the artificial production of debt. The human cost of this is enormous. I mean even if you compare Germany and the UK, two places which should be at the same economic level, wages have gone up something like 20% in real terms in Germany in the last [what is it] two decades or so. But during the same period they went down effectively here. We have nurses using food banks, we have [you know] poverty level life experiences for people that are working quite hard and it's all completely unnecessary...
David Graeber

The USA became a Fascist nation, like Europe and toward the extreme socialism of Communism, in 1916.
The 16th Amendment rendered the US Constitution unenforceable, by the people. It was the day the US Government gain all the power over the people, placing each and everyone from then on, in bondage to the collective.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The USA became a Fascist nation, like Europe and toward the extreme socialism of Communism, in 1916.
The 16th Amendment rendered the US Constitution unenforceable, by the people. It was the day the US Government gain all the power over the people, placing each and everyone from then on, in bondage to the collective.
Yes, and unequally so.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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what????

that it the IRS.. it show the CURRENT tax brackets and deductions



are you calling the actual IRS bogus???
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IRS.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by the United States Department of Treasury or the Internal Revenue Service. It is a non-governmental, privately owned website, operated by Banks.com, Inc.
The real IRS website is IRS.GOV not IRS.COM
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