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You think, when facing 30+ years in prison, that Manafort won't fold like a cheap lawn chair and start singing like a canary? You do know that's how cases like this work, right?
What, because Mueller didn't have Trump arrested this morning, you think the entire case is a nothingburger?
Patience, my friend. Patience. This is only the beginning. I hope you stick around for the fun, though.
Its funny I thought Mueller was brought in to see if there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia not simply to find a reason to put Trump in jail.
Well if the Watergate investigation is how it works, this is not looking good for Mueller. With Watergate the first arrests were 7 people for the Watergate coverup, not unrelated crimes. If Mueller's only hope is getting Manafort to spill whatever beans you think he has, that is very weak.
As I have said many times Manafort joined the Trump campaign to better himself with his foriegn business dealings not help Trump collude with Russia. They wiretapped Manafort during the time of the campaign. If there was a smoking gun it would have come out today.
If Manafort was paid by the Russians to join the trump campaign that would be HUGE. I admit that. Now if Trump himself was aware of the deal, that would be impeachable. However, we are not even close to that yet. So far, we have Manafort hiding foreign funds, not disclosing his lobbying for foreign government, defrauding US banks and lying about whether or not an apartment was investment or not. All illegal. If he is found guilty, he will go to jail.
I agree, this is merely the beginning and this is likely a tactic to flip Manafort for bigger people. But keep in mind Manafort was involved with changing the Republican Party platform to be pro-Putin and anti-Ukraine, and Manafort picked Pence to be VP.
The one good thing that might come from this ongoing nightmare that we've been living since November 2016 is that maybe people all over will see that crime does not pay.
This may finally be good for American kids to see! Instead of seeing that bullying and name calling pay off, they can see that it makes enemies for you. Instead of seeing that cheating is a good thing, they'll see that it can land you in jail.
I hope that justice prevails and good triumphs over bad, that we can feel good about our country again.
The issue is the crime committed. The Clintons are even more guilty than Manafort. This actually sets up a perfect strike on the Clintons. Can't accuse Mueller of partisanship when he went after Manafort, first.
I don't think the Clintons are squeaky clean at all but this Uranium One deal is a bust -- give it up -- find something else.
There's been no indication that the indictment includes any of Manafort's actions on behalf of Trump's campaign. They're all related to events that occurred years before that. Approximately the same time frame in which the Clintons got the $100+ million kickback from Russians for the Uranium One deal.
you say this as though it was true..charges filed, trial, and conviction.
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Its funny I thought Mueller was brought in to see if there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia not simply to find a reason to put Trump in jail.
Well if the Watergate investigation is how it works, this is not looking good for Mueller. With Watergate the first arrests were 7 people who committed the Watergate coverup.
As I have said many times Manafort joined the Trump campaign to better himself with his foriegn business dealings not help Trump collude with Russia. They wiretapped Manafort during the time of the campaign.If there was a smoking gun it would have come out today.
I take it you've got an inside man on Mueller's team to know that?
Or you've got inside information on Meuller's intentions and what he's planning on doing next?
Trump himself may not be guilty initially but I think we will find out there is a very strong possibility he was aware of some of the wrong doings and didn't do anything or helped to try to sweep it under the rug.
The one good thing that might come from this ongoing nightmare that we've been living since November 2016 is that maybe people all over will see that crime does not pay.
This may finally be good for American kids to see! Instead of seeing that bullying and name calling pay off, they can see that it makes enemies for you. Instead of seeing that cheating is a good thing, they'll see that it can land you in jail.
I hope that justice prevails and good triumphs over bad, that we can feel good about our country again.
If you are referring to Russian influence in America then that has been going on since 2012 only the Obama administration didn't let the public know about it until AFTER Trump got elected.
And more than likely that was due to the US interference in Ukraine.
The crimes happened while he was chairman of Trump's campaign. There is no federal statute for "collusion." Collusion charges are conspiracy, espionage, and financial crimes related to foreign entities.
He was in the Trump Campaign for a 3 whole months..
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