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Old 10-30-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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One of the main reasons Whitefish was chosen was because PREPA does not have much cash and Whitefish did not require a down payment for their services.

PREPA had declared bankruptcy 3 months prior to the storms and they have approx. $9 billion in debt.

More financial details here...

They were in touch with contractors from Jacksonville. That's how they got word of Whitefish. It was not through Trump or Zinke.

In an interview Thursday, Prepa’s chief financial officer, Nelson Morales, said the agency had “been in touch with” the power association and had received help from individual utilities such as the Jacksonville, Florida, electric authority. But he said his agency had established relationships with contractors, so Prepa’s procurement office hired them to help restore power.

Those contractors included a tiny, 2-year-old Montana-based company called Whitefish Energy Holdings. While other power companies “are all afraid of the question of how are we going to get paid, Whitefish Energy was the company that actually made the leap of faith and was able to get over here," Chief Executive Officer Andy Techmanski said as he prepared to survey a downed line in San Juan.


PREPA's procurement office would be the people to talk to... they made the hire.

 
Old 10-30-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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that was being talked about over the weekend, I guess instead of having on the TV or radio you waited until you could read it in the honest and fair minded NYT. BTW again this has nothing to do with TRump not to mention anyone who is upset with the contract going to the small company is pretty naive. This is not something new in the world of business. Haven't you heard, it isn't what you know but who you know.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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They haven't chosen to stop it. Elon Musk is helping them. They just chose not to use a criminal crony of the Trump administration to fail at doing anything in exchange for $300 million.
Elon Musk. Elon Musk.

The guy promises 10000 Model S cars per month and later the and amount per week and so far has produce 260 frigging Model S cars. And you trust him to somehow create magic on that sorry island called PR. Good luck with that. They will be jumping from the frying pan to the fire with Musk.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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There has already been a long thread on Prepa and Whitefish.

PR and Prepa could and should have used the mutual aid agreements that helped restore power in FL and TX after hurricanes knocked out power. Hopefully they will do so now.

I put the responsibility of this poor choice in Whitefish though on Prepa and not Trump. Even if he influenced them, Prepa could have gone on social media and stated they weren't going to use Whitefish. It is very shady and is not something that should happen - award an emergency contract to a company without due diligence, especially when they have the mutual aid agreements to go to without having to bid out anything.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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There has already been a long thread on Prepa and Whitefish.

PR and Prepa could and should have used the mutual aid agreements that helped restore power in FL and TX after hurricanes knocked out power. Hopefully they will do so now.

I put the responsibility of this poor choice in Whitefish though on Prepa and not Trump. Even if he influenced them, Prepa could have gone on social media and stated they weren't going to use Whitefish. It is very shady and is not something that should happen - award an emergency contract to a company without due diligence, especially when they have the mutual aid agreements to go to without having to bid out anything.
From above...

Prepa, as the utility is known, has said it couldn’t pay for assistance from mainland utilities immediately before or after Hurricane Maria. Nearly three months before the storm, Prepa declared bankruptcy following years of negotiations with creditors aimed at cutting its $9 billion of debt. Underinvestment has led to “severe degradation,” rendering transmission and generation equipment “unsafe and unreliable,’’ the authority said in a report this year.

If it had the money, the authority could have partnered with power providers in the American Public Power Association. Under a mutual-aid agreement, utilities send crews from outside a storm-damaged area. But that system -- used to deploy thousands of line workers after hurricanes hit Texas and Florida -- requires that a stricken utility cover the costs of helping.

“We did not hear from them," said Meena Dayak, a spokeswoman for the 1,400-member public power association. The group, along with other electric companies, have said they remain eager to help. But one New Jersey utility, for instance, said it would need assurances before sending assistance so its customers didn’t end up covering the cost.


Again - they didn't have the money needed to take advantage of the mutual aid agreement.

That's why they used Whitefish, who did not require any down payment... which is probably why their rates are higher. That's just the real world.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:17 PM
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Trump's Unabridged Dictionary

Win(v) - to bluster and brag with bombastic confidence and gain cheers from large crowds as a result, especially when showing off how crushingly dominant you through expressing misstatements of fact or profound disrespect for others (See Loser), irrespective of the claim's credibility.

Winning (gerund), won (past tense)

So according to Trump's Dictionary, he is winning. Merriam-Webster is a LOSER!
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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From above...

Prepa, as the utility is known, has said it couldn’t pay for assistance from mainland utilities immediately before or after Hurricane Maria. Nearly three months before the storm, Prepa declared bankruptcy following years of negotiations with creditors aimed at cutting its $9 billion of debt. Underinvestment has led to “severe degradation,” rendering transmission and generation equipment “unsafe and unreliable,’’ the authority said in a report this year.

If it had the money, the authority could have partnered with power providers in the American Public Power Association. Under a mutual-aid agreement, utilities send crews from outside a storm-damaged area. But that system -- used to deploy thousands of line workers after hurricanes hit Texas and Florida -- requires that a stricken utility cover the costs of helping.

“We did not hear from them," said Meena Dayak, a spokeswoman for the 1,400-member public power association. The group, along with other electric companies, have said they remain eager to help. But one New Jersey utility, for instance, said it would need assurances before sending assistance so its customers didn’t end up covering the cost.


Again - they didn't have the money needed to take advantage of the mutual aid agreement.

That's why they used Whitefish, who did not require any down payment.
If they had the money to pay Whitefish, they had the money to pay the states/countries of the mutual aid agreement.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:21 PM
 
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WTF is wrong with you people. The PR company PICKED THE WINNER! Trump had nothing to do with it.

Trump had nothing to do with it doesn't mean he won't meddle in it after the first deal is off.

This is the same guy who wants to use his presidency to pardon himself.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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If they had the money to pay Whitefish, they had the money to pay the states/countries of the mutual aid agreement.
If you had read through what I have posted, PREPA had declared bankruptcy 3 months before the hurricanes hit. They have $9 billion in debt.

Whitefish was not requiring a down payment. Other companies stayed away because they were afraid of not getting paid.

PREPA was looking to have FEMA reimburse around $215 million of the $300 million.

FEMA started whining about the contract details, which made Ramos nervous, and he caved in because PREPA would not be able to pay without FEMA's reimbursement.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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Trump had nothing to do with it doesn't mean he won't meddle in it after the first deal is off.

This is the same guy who wants to use his presidency to pardon himself.
.

Reaching now, are we? LOL...


Trump sholda coulda woulda.......
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