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Like Trump, Kelly isn't an academician. He's not very bright.
What are you accomplishments? I'm sure they are grand if by your standards men who have achieved financial success, became President of the United States, Marine Corps general, Secretary of Homeland security are not very bright.
“I would tell you that Robert E. Lee was an honorable man,” Kelly told Ingraham. “He was a man that gave up his country to fight for his state, which 150 years ago was more important than country. It was always loyalty to state first back in those days. Now it’s different today. But the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War, and men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand.”
All war represents a failure of diplomacy. Diplomacy requires compromise, not sure why this make anybody a supremacist, a liar, or a nazi.
General Kelly is full of it.
Robert E. Lee was a traitor.
When Lee graduated from West Point he did not give his oath to protect Virginia, he gave his oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the United States of America.
There were countless attempts to compromise on the slavery issue. Check other C-D threads on the Confederacy for details.
Southern slave owners were worried that as more states joined the union, slavery would be voted down, so instead of seeking a diplomatic solution, instead of trying to get an Amendment passed to secede, ... they attacked Ft. Sumter, apparently in the misguided notion that the U.S. would back down.
It was bloody, brutal war that was doomed from the getgo. The south didn't have either the manpower or the industrial base to win.
In order to heal the wounds, Lincoln, Grant, etc. let the soldiers take their horses home and get back to their spring planting. No land was confiscated. Davis, Lee, etc. were not subjected to any consequences for their treason.
With the exception of a few, such as the commander of Andersonville, there were no trials, no one was hung, no one imprisoned.
Looking back, that may have been a mistake.
150 years later and we are still fighting that damn Civil War. Perhaps if they had all been branded the traitors they were, it would have been over once and for all and we could have moved on.
its backwards- mrT& the trumpettes are the ones derailing our America
bull carp. nothing the Trump admin is doing will derail the nation. absolutely nothing.
the left on the other hand has perfectly articulated that speech can be violence and therefore speech that is not of a certain verity can and should be opposed. (that's just one single example)
The left wants to get rid of the first amendment and has absolutely stated such.
we can go on and on, but it is utterly clear that the LEFT desires to dismantle this nation entirely and they will stop at nothing... until they are stopped.
I certainly don't think that owning slaves was ever right, even though many of America's founders and most important historical figures owned slaves.
On the other hand, we have to examine the meaning of the action taken by the historical figure in its context to get more of a sense of his character. The distinction here is twofold: first, between the judgment of an action as moral or immoral and the judgment of a person having a good or bad character; and second, between the action as an expression of a moral principle and the expression of a cultural trend.
I don't really see a dilemma, just ambiguity in the question you want answered.
General Kelly said,
"But the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War. And men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had to make their stand"
all wars are the result of lack of compromises.
He is certainly not wrong about that.
Plus, Gen Kelly's education
Education: National War College (1994–1995), Georgetown University (1984), University of Massachusetts Boston (1976)
When Lee graduated from West Point he did not give his oath to protect Virginia, he gave his oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the United States of America.
There were countless attempts to compromise on the slavery issue. Check other C-D threads on the Confederacy for details.
Southern slave owners were worried that as more states joined the union, slavery would be voted down, so instead of seeking a diplomatic solution, instead of trying to get an Amendment passed to secede, ... they attacked Ft. Sumter, apparently in the misguided notion that the U.S. would back down.
It was bloody, brutal war that was doomed from the getgo. The south didn't have either the manpower or the industrial base to win.
In order to heal the wounds, Lincoln, Grant, etc. let the soldiers take their horses home and get back to their spring planting. No land was confiscated. Davis, Lee, etc. were not subjected to any consequences for their treason.
With the exception of a few, such as the commander of Andersonville, there were no trials, no one was hung, no one imprisoned.
Looking back, that may have been a mistake.
150 years later and we are still fighting that damn Civil War. Perhaps if they had all been branded the traitors they were, it would have been over once and for all and we could have moved on.
These are your opinions but nevertheless Robert E. Lee was not a traitor, he did give up his country for his state, 150 years ago states had much greater importance, The issue was expansion of slavery into the new territories and there was actually a lot of attempted and some successful compromise going on in the years leading up to the war it just ultimately come to succession as a compromise to the opposition.
These are your opinions but nevertheless Robert E. Lee was not a traitor, he did give up his country for his state, 150 years ago states had much greater importance, The issue was expansion of slavery into the new territories and there was actually a lot of attempted and some successful compromise going on in the years leading up to the war it just ultimately come to succession as a compromise to the opposition.
The Civil War was not a compromise. It was a bloody, brutal war.
Taking up arms against your own nation is the very definition of treason.
The Civil War was not a compromise. It was a bloody, brutal war.
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No one said civil war was a compromise lol
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