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Originally Posted by Magritte25 View Post
No not kidding. Again you're arguing semantics. Why?
I'm arguing because words matter. There are people who actually believe that the money we earn is the governments money. And some politicians like that. Did you ever hear of totalitarian mind control. Using words or changing the meaning of words to make something bad into good. Example below
“Illegal aliens” became “illegal immigrants” and then “undocumented immigrants” and presto-chango, something bad was magically transformed into something good.
Now if people believe the money you earn is governments money they grab will get much worse. Fortunately there are people who understand the money you earn is NOT the governments money.
I don't usually agree with petch, but she's definitely right in this case. Look at your paycheck, what you bring home is your NET, what you make is the GROSS. A tax cut is simply going to allow you to keep more of the GROSS. It's money you already earned, just less of it will go to the federal, state, or local government.
People don't pay much attention to how much government takes because they take a little at a time. When people get their paycheck the first thing, and probably the only thing they look at is the amount that is deposited into their bank account. This works to governments advantage. If people paid more attention to how much the government takes out they wouldn't be happy.
People don't pay much attention to how much government takes because they take a little at a time. When people get their paycheck the first thing, and probably the only thing they look at is the amount that is deposited into their bank account. This works to governments advantage. If people paid more attention to how much the government takes out they wouldn't be happy.
Balderdash.
Everyone knows how much the government takes out. It’s a line on your tax form. And so everyone complains about taxes.
Here’s a question: how much does your employer take from your labor, in the form of profits? It’s an invisible number, and thus much more insidious.
If employers were forced to put a “profit made from employee” line on every pay stub, there’d be a revolution.
Everyone knows how much the government takes out. It’s a line on your tax form. And so everyone complains about taxes.
Here’s a question: how much does your employer take from your labor, in the form of profits? It’s an invisible number, and thus much more insidious.
What an absurd notion. When you go to work for an employer, you enter into a mutually agreed upon contract spelling out how you will be compensated for your labor. Unless contractually agreed upon, the profit earned is irrelevant to your compensation. When you get paid, you are fully and fairly compensated for your labor. If you want a share of the profits become an owner.
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If employers were forced to put a “profit made from employee” line on every pay stub, there’d be a revolution.
And another absurd notion. Do you really think that low wage workers at McDonald's and Wal-Mart don't know that those companies are making $$$$ while they are only making $12/hour? Where's the revolution?
What an absurd notion. When you go to work for an employer, you enter into a mutually agreed upon contract spelling out how you will be compensated for your labor. Unless contractually agreed upon, the profit earned is irrelevant to your compensation. When you get paid, you are fully and fairly compensated for your labor.
A person has to work to survive. The employer, on the other hand, can hire anyone. So the employer has all of the bargaining power. The employer wins, the employee loses.
When a robber puts a gun to my head, I enter into a mutually agreed upon contract with the robber spelling out how much money I have to give him in exchange for my survival: I give him everything. The robber wins, I lose.
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Originally Posted by TaxPhd
If you want a share of the profits become an owner.
There’s no money left to buy the gun from the robber when the robber has already taken everything that I have.
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Originally Posted by TaxPhd
And another absurd notion. Do you really think that low wage workers at McDonald's and Wal-Mart don't know that those companies are making $$$$ while they are only making $12/hour? Where's the revolution?
a person has to work to survive. The employer, on the other hand, can hire anyone. So the employer has all of the bargaining power. The employer wins, the employee loses.
When a robber puts a gun to my head, i enter into a mutually agreed upon contract with the robber spelling out how much money i have to give him in exchange for my survival: I give him everything. The robber wins, i lose.
There’s no money left to buy the gun from the robber when the robber has already taken everything that i have.
I'm arguing because words matter. There are people who actually believe that the money we earn is the governments money. And some politicians like that. Did you ever hear of totalitarian mind control. Using words or changing the meaning of words to make something bad into good. Example below
“Illegal aliens” became “illegal immigrants” and then “undocumented immigrants” and presto-chango, something bad was magically transformed into something good.
Now if people believe the money you earn is governments money they grab will get much worse. Fortunately there are people who understand the money you earn is NOT the governments money.
You’re arguing semantics because you don’t want to tip your hand, and need to cover up the fact that you’re upper class and will benefit far more than “the poors”.
I’ve been around enough of the wealthy to recognize when someone’s married into it.
A person has to work to survive. The employer, on the other hand, can hire anyone. So the employer has all of the bargaining power. The employer wins, the employee loses.
When a robber puts a gun to my head, I enter into a mutually agreed upon contract with the robber spelling out how much money I have to give him in exchange for my survival: I give him everything. The robber wins, I lose.
Re the above, you are:
1. Thinking like a victim
2. Thinking like an employee
(two of your issues ^^^^^)
...Rather than thinking creatively, thinking like an entrepreneur.
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There’s no money left to buy the gun from the robber when the robber has already taken everything that I have.
Man women doesn't matter that person is morally bankrupt
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