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Hitler was proudly socialist. I'm not calling him socialist because of right wing media, I'm calling Hitler and the Nazis socialists because they were socialists. Not only did they subscribe to all the socialist principles, they were so serious about it they added it to the name of their political party. How can anyone reasonably argue the Nazis were not socialists?
Let's go over it slowly, so you would not get confused yourself and confuse others.
Hitler ( and the rest of his ilk) were first and utmost GERMAN NATIONALISTS, and that's why "NATIONAL" is the key word in the name of Hitler's party.
Now because the NATIONAL IDEAS are served the BEST by SOCIALIST economy ( in the same manner as *socialism* serves smaller European nations today - be that Sweden or Norway or France,) Hitler's party put "Socialist" as a second word in description of their party.
Now TRUE Socialists ( and Communists alike,) that had nothing to do with Nationalism, and everything to do with CLASS STRUGGLE, were actually prosecuted in Hitler's Germany.
Hitler was proudly socialist. I'm not calling him socialist because of right wing media, I'm calling Hitler and the Nazis socialists because they were socialists. Not only did they subscribe to all the socialist principles, they were so serious about it they added it to the name of their political party. How can anyone reasonably argue the Nazis were not socialists?
This is your basic problem across these boards; people not having the slightest idea of what the actual description of socialism is and applying it like a coat of paint.
Hitler called himself and ascribed to a political persuasion that at the time the people wanted to hear from their leadership. In other words; he sold them a bill of goods to gain and keep power. wherever have we seen that happen before........MAGA!!!
I doubt most will actually click on the links so generously provided by the more educated posters above -
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Hitler never wrote nor uttered these words. Instead, these are the words of early Nazi party official Gregor Strasser, printed in a 1926 pamphlet titled Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future. That pamphlet, as we will discuss in detail below, attempted to appeal to ultranationalist movements on both the left and the right at a time when the Nazis were a fringe political party seeking to carve out as big a part of the German electorate as possible.
A little more to drive home the point...
Hitler had him killed in 1934.
So...do you all need more hand-holding to fully under Nazism? Or have you been schooled enough?
That's why our income inequality is some of the worst in the world.
Income inequality only means some are making more than others. Since when has preventing people from making more money than their neighbors been seen as fair ? I mean, other than in France where if you make 3 millions the State confiscates 2 millions.
"Socialism, reduced to its simplest legal and practical expression, means the complete discarding of the institution of private property by transforming it into public property, and the division of the resultant public income equally and indiscriminately among the entire population. "
People who say "socialism is responsible for the murder of hundreds of millions" are dumb. It's embarrassing how many fundamentally uneducated people we have in this country; this forum seems to have an over-representation of them.
Socialism is not the same as communism Marxism; nor fascism or Nazism. It also isn't a binary concept, like being pregnant; socialism exists on a spectrum of degrees that mixes with other capitalist principles in many modern countries. This country also has certain socialistic principles embedded in it's fabric, although less so than others.
Nazis were far-right, not far-left. The "Socialism" in their name didn't refer to a left wing ideology.
Your entire thread is nonsense. Peddling the Nazis and Fascism as left-wing just proves you don't know what they mean or their history.
Adolf Hitler (and Nazi Germany) banned free speech and killed people with different ideology than him. Sounds like what a lot of leftists want to do.
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Most of the 1st world has elements of socialism. Scandinavia, most of Europe, Canada, Australia. And they're the best places in the world to live. In fact, no country on earth following a strictly right-wing model is successful or good to live in.
If those countries are better to live in, why don't you move there? A lot of people don't want this country to progress into a nanny welfare state where 60-70 percent of their income gets taken by the feds and redistributed to lazy bums who sit at home all day.
We have real capitalism its working as intended enriching the wealthy and destroying the middle class. Capital is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and the shadow of plutocracy is falling on the USA. If people want to take back there lives and jobs we need to be less capitalist not more.
How about we stop sending our jobs overseas, stop allowing people flooding over the border and stop importing workers on a H1-B visa?
Socialism is regaining popularity because millennials either weren't alive during it or were too young to remember the effects of it. We grew up in the post-1989 world. So the grass looks greener. We don't see pictures on the news of long queues for bread. We don't hear stories of a 15 year waiting list for a crappy car. All we have ever known is capitalism and familiarity breeds contempt.
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