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Old 11-04-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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Incorrect. Before 1980 Rhodesia was known as the "Breadbasket of Africa". It has some of the best farmland on the entire continent.
Nearly all sub Saharan nations have very fertile land.

Africa NEVER depended on Zimbabwe for food. Again, if white Rhodesians took such good care of their black citizens, why did black folks want them ousted?

 
Old 11-04-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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Or maybe alot of people don't know how to farm and should learn how. That would help.
So? With all the organizations in the UN and all the money the UN gets, where has the UN been to teach these people how to farm? Everyday the UN proves itself to be more worthless. They request funding that simply lines their pockets. They create reports but do nothing about what is in their reports.

https://www.voanews.com/a/zimbabwe-f...s/3738468.html
 
Old 11-04-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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Africa is a continent. We are talking about Southern Rhodesia part of modern day Zimbabwe.

There was no corn (brought by Europeans) or millet (brought by Arabs) as you stated until after these groups came through there.
Yes, it is a continent and I went through and listed the similar dishes in various countries.

Millet (finger millet) was not brought by the Arabs. It originates in Uganda.
 
Old 11-04-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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Sounds about right

No way in hell do I believe that Zimbabweans want white farmers back.
 
Old 11-05-2017, 12:57 AM
 
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Oh yeah? What did you call it when white Rhodesians declared war on their black citizens and neighbors?
Which was a mistake on the part of the Southern Rhodesians.

The Northern Rhodesians accepted the inevitability of black rule once independence came about and did not fight it. Independence came peacefully. And, when it came, Zambia's first president Kenneth Kaunda invited them to stay. Their numbers have dwindled through the years but there are still whites in Zambia, descendants of those colonists. In fact, some of the white farmers who were expelled from Zimbabwe went to Zambia.

If the Southern Rhodesians had accepted the inevitability of black rule once independence came and didn't rise up in arms against it, if they did not declare a UDI but decided to work with the new black leaders, there would never have been a Mugabe and whatever black leader emerged in Zimbabwe would have accepted the white community like Kaunda did, and like Kenyatta did in Kenya.
 
Old 11-05-2017, 01:28 AM
 
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The natural result of socialism. Works fine until the looters run out of producing victims. I find it ironic that the very people they have stolen property from are the very ones they want to come back and continue to produce for them.
It's not socialism. It's racism.

They chased off the goose that lays the golden eggs, and now they have no golden eggs. Who could have guessed?
 
Old 11-05-2017, 01:30 AM
 
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Since I’ve seen no accounts of Europeans finding starving Africans in Zimbabwe when they arrived, the question is this: how were Zimbabweans feeding themselves before white men areived?
They weren't. The land was vacant.
 
Old 11-05-2017, 01:35 AM
 
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Bottom line, if they hadn’t set up a system based on race to subjugate the real native people of the land, they wouldn’t have gotten their lands expropriated.
Never happened. The whites are the natives, and the blacks immigrated later. Fact.
 
Old 11-05-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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Never happened. The whites are the natives, and the blacks immigrated later. Fact.
Northern Africa and The Horn were once white, I believe the area in question was always black.
 
Old 11-05-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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The Horn? It was never white. North Africa was also never white unless you consider Kabyle Berbers white? Carthaginians are North Africans mixed with people from the Levantine and maybe some Greek admixture IMO.
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