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I'm not trying to contort anything. The Scandinavian countries - indeed, most of Europe - are often called socialist by people in the US, yet they all have democratically elected government officials. I am quite serious when I ask where they would fall in your opinion. Are they socialist, are they democracies or republics, or are they authoritarian? Are they free countries with certain elements that have been socialized, such as health care? It seems like a legitimate question.
They have socialized benefits in terms of things like healthcare, retirement, etc.
A socialist country would have their economy and means of production socialized.
The following day, on February 2, Chris Kyle, the most prolific sniper in American military history, arrived with a friend, Chad Littlefield, to take Routh to a shooting range. Jodi’s concerns, it turned out, had been misplaced. Her son did not commit suicide. He did something much worse: He killed the two men.
I'm not trying to contort anything. The Scandinavian countries - indeed, most of Europe - are often called socialist by people in the US, yet they all have democratically elected government officials. I am quite serious when I ask where they would fall in your opinion. Are they socialist, are they democracies or republics, or are they authoritarian? Are they free countries with certain elements that have been socialized, such as health care? It seems like a legitimate question.
Incorrect. Absolutely.
The Prime Ministers of those countries are not elected by the people. And then there is the entire EU arrangement. There is NO Election for the head of the EU. In fact, for the most part, the people have far less ability to chose who actually leads them, than the people in the USA.
And a number of these countries still recognize a monarchy and royal elite who get special benefits not available because of birth to regular citizens.
If a woman gets pregnant as the result of rape and decides to get an abortion because she doesn't want to carry and deliver the child of her rapist, yes, the rape is responsible.
A gun is an object, and morally neutral. Rape is neither.
As for abortion itself, that is not the issue at hand here.
A purported rape is done by an irresponsible individual regardless of the victim's consent.
A gun murder or non-defensive shooting is done by an irresponsible individual regardless of the victim's consent.
Irresponsible and non-consentual behavior are responsible for the outcomes in both cases whether they be a child, abortion, injury, trauma or death.
Maybe a better analogy would be to ban sex because rape happens; ban guns because violence happens to you?
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They have socialized benefits in terms of things like healthcare, retirement, etc.
A socialist country would have their economy and means of production socialized.
Thank you, that is the clarification I wanted. It's important, because a lot of people misuse the term "socialist," generally as a derogatory term for any developed country that isn't the US.
A purported rape is done by an irresponsible individual regardless of the victim's consent.
A gun murder or non-defensive shooting is done by an irresponsible individual regardless of the victim's consent.
Irresponsible and non-consentual behavior are responsible for the outcomes in both cases whether they be a child, abortion, injury, trauma or death.
Maybe a better analogy would be to ban sex because rape happens; ban guns because violence happens to you?
That's a little better, but honestly, I think the people who talk about banning baseball bats and screwdrivers have the analogy thing pretty well covered.
Said with such pomposity too. Every shooting is one too many. Maybe you’d like to volunteer to be the one that has to call the families of the deceased after all these senseless tragedies.
Here’s a video of another one for you. I know some are incapable of using Google themselves. You’re welcome:
The Prime Ministers of those countries are not elected by the people. And then there is the entire EU arrangement. There is NO Election for the head of the EU. In fact, for the most part, the people have far less ability to chose who actually leads them, than the people in the USA.
And a number of these countries still recognize a monarchy and royal elite who get special benefits not available because of birth to regular citizens.
That's really funny, especially since your president didn't get the majority of votes BY THE PEOPLE, but did get the required votes from...
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