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Old 11-18-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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One of the reasons the US Justice system is so inept at dealing with crime is US prisons are essentially college for inmates they go and come out a better criminal. Solutions to deal with this largely fall on deaf ears since our country is set up to massively punish people even for minor crimes and offenses. Solutions to this crisis remove the stigma of hiring a ex convict if they can't get jobs because of criminal record this in effect creates a double punishment despite the fact the time has been served. If criminals can't find jobs they return to crime. If we as a country cared about reducing crime we need to help train prisoners in demand jobs and fields make it so they don't become de facto second class citizens on release and help line up jobs for them. With a lower recidivism rate we could have a higher GDP as more citizens become productive and pay taxes.
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Don't Let Them Out = Solution
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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Don't Let Them Out = Solution
I think that depends on the crime. Obviously murders rapists and the lot should either get the death penalty or life imprisonment. For many other crimes though we don't even bother with rehabilitation.
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Don't Let Them Out = Solution
Prepared to see your taxes double as a result?
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Prepared to see your taxes double as a result?
My solution would make prisons more cost effective lowering tax in the long term.
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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Prepared to see your taxes double as a result?
won't double.

Short-term rise, followed by drop in crime when Jr knows older bro who he thought gets slap on wrist is not coming home.

Animals in cages where they belong when they can't live in civilized society= Less Crime
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Old 11-18-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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won't double.

Short-term rise, followed by drop in crime when Jr knows older bro who he thought gets slap on wrist is not coming home.

Animals in cages where they belong when they can't live in civilized society= Less Crime
So you want the opposite long sentences no rehabilitation?
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Old 11-18-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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won't double.

Short-term rise, followed by drop in crime when Jr knows older bro who he thought gets slap on wrist is not coming home.

Animals in cages where they belong when they can't live in civilized society= Less Crime
How much more in taxes are you willing to pay? There are no societies with a massive prison population that have low crime. You are arguing against reality. The closest you would get is the Soviet Union. Huge prison population, massive taxes to pay for this slave labor. Are you prepared to see your taxes double? You are essentially calling for a huge big government on stereoids.
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Old 11-18-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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How about actually offering rehabilitation and health restoration instead of archaic "punishment," along with poor nutrition and sub-standard living conditions?
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Old 11-18-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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How about actually offering rehabilitation and health restoration instead of archaic "punishment," along with poor nutrition and sub-standard living conditions?
I agree this would make a massive difference. I also think unless the offence was violent that employers have no business asking if you have a criminal record.
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