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Old 11-13-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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I don't agree that the solution for so-called "poor" schools is more money. In my large urban city they are spending over a billion on schools right now. More money obviously isn't the answer.
What's that money being spent on though, did you ever bother to find out?
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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Smaller class size, usually better teachers, and lots of big dollar fundraising campaigns. Fewer learning disabled kids, fewer ELL kids and no kids who go to school hungry or tired because they slept in the back of a car instead of in a bed.
These are the reasons they can’t graduate from high school???

My class size was 55 students. Only one didn’t graduate.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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These are the reasons they can’t graduate from high school???

My class size was 55 students. Only one didn’t graduate.
But I thought you said this?
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I came from a poor family. My parents insisted and helped me study. I was able to go from bad schools to best schools based on merit.
And now you are claiming this merit based high school had a class size of 55
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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Are we suggesting that poor people don’t care about their children?

If they do care, how could they allow their children not finish high school?

What’s the real reason that they don’t graduate from high school?
How many poor children DON'T graduate from high school today....?

Also FWIW I know poor people who have high school students. They want their kids to graduate but the student decides not to do so. However, those kids usually drop out and get a GED then get a job. A majority of all Americans either graduate from high school or have a GED.

For the past 5-10 years, our country has the highest graduation rates that we've ever had.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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But I thought you said this?

And now you are claiming this merit based high school had a class size of 55
What’s wrong there? I was not home schooled.
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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How many poor children DON'T graduate from high school today....?

Also FWIW I know poor people who have high school students. They want their kids to graduate but the student decides not to do so. However, those kids usually drop out and get a GED then get a job. A majority of all Americans either graduate from high school or have a GED.

For the past 5-10 years, our country has the highest graduation rates that we've ever had.
If so, what are we arguing here?
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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What’s wrong there? I was not home schooled.
Most wonderful 'merit' based high schools do not have class sizes of 55 students
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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I don't agree that the solution for so-called "poor" schools is more money. In my large urban city they are spending over a billion on schools right now. More money obviously isn't the answer.
Absolutely correct! The problem ISN'T any imaginary lack of funding.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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The average number of children in all households in the US (2015) was 2.4

The average number of children in a household that receives welfare in 2013 was 2.5
What you state and what you link don't match. That link says the average mother has 2.4 kids, not the average household.

You picked one of the smallest welfare programs for your second point.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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What you state and what you link don't match. That link says the average mother has 2.4 kids, not the average household.

You picked one of the smallest welfare programs for your second point.
A household can be a mother, or a mother or a father, or one or the other with grandparents. You want to demonstrate that I'm wrong, please do so, but with sourced data.
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