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Old 11-14-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Nope, terrible idea. Teachers get threatened by their own students. We're either going to have kids stealing teachers' guns, or teachers shooting their students.

And do you plan on giving all teachers semi-automatic rifles? Unlikely a teacher is going to stop a gunman before he kills lots of people.
It's even more unlikely that a sign which says "Gun Free Zone" is going to stop a gunman, but arming teachers is better than doubling down on the stupidity that has turned our schools into hunting preserves for the criminally insane.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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The root cause of gun violence? Judging by the disparity in motives of shooters, there is no one "root cause." If you have some sort of insight into why people decide to commit atrocities, you may want to let the FBI or local police know. You could save a lot of lives.
So why do we have such a bad gun problem while no other developed nation does?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Teachers are nurturing.

They wouldn't shoot a fly.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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Why not armed guards in schools? Israel has them. Works out there.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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So why do we have such a bad gun problem while no other developed nation does?
Hate to tell you, but we don't have a "gun" problem. We have a society problem. There are many reasons for that society problem, but guns aren't one of them. Guns are merely a tool. You can be mad at the tool if you want to, but no amount of anti-gun legislation is going to stop the idiots who want to commit violence on innocent people. Until the anti-gun crowd wraps their head around that fact and starts addressing the issues in our society that have led us to this point, everything is noise.

You won't stop violence by banning guns or restricting magazines. You won't stop violence by making it harder for law-abiding citizens to obtain firearms. You won't stop violence by restricting anything, actually. If you magically made all guns disappear tomorrow, you would still see people committing atrocities - it would just be with different weapons.

What can we do to stop it? I don't have a magic answer, but I have some ideas. Stop teaching children that participation=success. It sets an unreasonable expectation. Stop demonizing police officers and soldiers for doing their jobs. Stop raising children in front of television screens because social media is more important than raising responsible, sane members of society. Stop medicating children in order to make them "fit in". Stop promoting public figures who believe that they are above the law due to their celebrity status. Start teaching the next generation that life is valuable and that video games aren't an accurate representation of real life. Start encouraging children to be a little bit different, and to embrace their differences.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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Take down the “Gun Free Zone†signs and replace them with “Warning: For the protection of our students, the faculty at this school are armed.â€
Navy Seal Chris Kyle was armed when he was killed yet you expect teachers to perform better than a Navy Seal?

OK, LOL
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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Navy Seal Chris Kyle was armed when he was killed yet you expect teachers to perform better than a Navy Seal?

OK, LOL
Chris Kyle was stupid. He turned his back on an armed former soldier with PTSD.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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Hate to tell you, but we don't have a "gun" problem. We have a society problem. There are many reasons for that society problem, but guns aren't one of them. Guns are merely a tool. You can be mad at the tool if you want to, but no amount of anti-gun legislation is going to stop the idiots who want to commit violence on innocent people. Until the anti-gun crowd wraps their head around that fact and starts addressing the issues in our society that have led us to this point, everything is noise.

You won't stop violence by banning guns or restricting magazines. You won't stop violence by making it harder for law-abiding citizens to obtain firearms. You won't stop violence by restricting anything, actually. If you magically made all guns disappear tomorrow, you would still see people committing atrocities - it would just be with different weapons.

What can we do to stop it? I don't have a magic answer, but I have some ideas. Stop teaching children that participation=success. It sets an unreasonable expectation. Stop demonizing police officers and soldiers for doing their jobs. Stop raising children in front of television screens because social media is more important than raising responsible, sane members of society. Stop medicating children in order to make them "fit in". Stop promoting public figures who believe that they are above the law due to their celebrity status. Start teaching the next generation that life is valuable and that video games aren't an accurate representation of real life. Start encouraging children to be a little bit different, and to embrace their differences.
What about the societies of the United Kingdom and France prevent them from mass shootings daily that we can't seem to replicate? Their gun homicides are 30 times lower than ours.

Your argument is guns aren't the problem, society is. So what's different about our society that's not found in any other 1st world country?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Bullet resistant backpack inserts available in South Florida school

What's next? Bullet-proof vests for concert-goers and church members?
What do you expect when liberals are so determined to make sure they're unprotected, and bend over backwards to defend criminals?
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:57 PM
 
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How about no backpacks in schools anymore.
Add cell phones while they are at it.

Put decent amount of passing time between classes again, so students have time to go to their lockers to get supplies in between class.
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