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They don't want to be informed, nor educated as the deal in falsehoods, and EMOTION. They have bought into the big government should control anything mantra.
More Gun Control is not about reducing violence by criminals using guns. It is purely about further control of the LAW ABIDING populace, and making them more dependent on government.
Twaddle. I've heard this paranoid gibberish for decades. Didn't buy it then, don't buy it now. Do you really think anyone with a brain believes this for a minute? I do understand that the Cult must keep exchanging and embellishing these positions to be able to make it seem like the whole gun-rights gubment-comin-ta-git-me fairy tale has some validity. Don't let us stop you.
Believe me, I know better than to "argue" with a gun cultist. Or a Trump cultist. It's like debating something with a religious fanatic, or a toddler. What's the point in such a debate? Debates are only useful when both parties are willing and able to look at facts and science. Furthermore, debates are only useful where parties are willing to compromise. I don't see that happening anytime soon for most of the gun rights extremists here on C-D.
Yet you are here, with no idea who you are debating and no argument besides juvenile insults. That's cute.
Outlaw AR-15s and similar weapons. That's a start. But only a start.
In the Heller case which affirmed individuals' right to have guns, Justice Scalia wrote for the 5 - 4 majority, the 2nd amendment is "not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose."
States can outlaw these weapons. Maybe even the US government can. They can keep outlawing models until the threat to public safety is removed.
AR-15's killed the victims in Parkland, Orlando, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, the Texas church. They have proven themselves to be unsuitable for use by the public.
Also, here are some good ideas from the NY Post, a Republican newspaper:
"Reinstate the federal assault-weapons ban..." Lapsed in 2004, bring it back. Since it lapsed, mass shooting have soared.
"Raise the age to buy firearms..." If you're too young to drink you're too young for a gun.
"Target bump stocks.." Remember the uproar from Las Vegas? Well, the gun nuts delayed and deferred until the control group wore out. As always. Bump stocks are still with us.
"Kill the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act..." This bill would allow people from concealed carry states to conceal carry in states where it's illegal. An act to spread stupidity as wide as possible.
These are reasonable measures. No one should have a gun as dangerous as AR-15. Even wanting one is evidence of serious mental offness and should disqualify a person from having one.
I think you meant to say "until all guns are outlawed." Because we all know that's the end game for gun grabbers.
Do whatever is necessary to make it uncommon. Sue the gun maker, sue the gun merchants. Tax it, tax its ammunition. Tax them higher. Make is owner recertify his license monthly. Then weekly. What ever it takes.
Look up "shall not be infringed." I'll wait.
What will be the outcome of your gun grab exactly? That only criminals will own guns?
Yet you are here, with no idea who you are debating and no argument besides juvenile insults. That's cute.
Well, I don't come here often. But I always like to learn the way other people think, even those that I disagree with totally. Part of the reason for being here is to draw out what REALLY makes the gun rights extremists tick. What truly motivates them to take such crazy positions? The more you dig, the more you learn. What's that old adage? "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
Well, I don't come here often. But I always like to learn the way other people think, even those that I disagree with totally. Part of the reason for being here is to draw out what REALLY makes the gun rights extremists tick. What really motivates them to take such crazy positions? The more you dig, the more you learn. What's that old adage? "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
I've found you don't learn much if you just go in to reinforce your preconceived notions. Just sayin'
Not sure what you mean by that, but I think that you are acknowledging that what I was saying is true. Extremist gun right advocates KNOW that the ready availability of weapons of mass/rapid lethality like the AR-15 is directly correlated to the exponential increase in mass shooting casualties, but they believe that their 2A amendment rights are so vital that they are willing to accept these deaths as a necessary price to pay to maintain those rights. Furthermore, they understand clearly that the odds are good that THEY are unlikely to be affected by one of these shooters.
It is a simple question. What constitutionally rights do you believe are worth sacrificing human life to protect. From your positions here I must assume that your 2nd amendment right is not one. I am just trying to gain some perspective.
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