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Old 02-16-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Roboteer View Post
Let me get this straight.

After the liberals spent more than a year trying to blame Russia! Russia! Russia! for Hillary's humiliating defeat by President Trump in the Nov. 2016 election....

....now they are trying to blame the same Russia! Russia! Russia! for their losing the gun control debate too?

Do they actually still think their shrinking voter base will believe them?

And they say "the right" is gullible?
This; from the country that indoctrinated the rest of us to hate Russia and everything it stood for. This from the country that brought us all to the brink over Russian missiles being placed on a island close to your shores.

Yep, we no longer need to think Russia would take any and every opportunity afforded it to manipulate your wee minds. They're now your NBF buddies because we all know and believe that particular leopard has demonstrated and proven the ability to change it's spots.

Dear gawd, what is wrong with this picture?

 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Immerse View Post
Why are russian bots out supporting pro gun BS?

Well the answer is clear: because they know right is so gullible, it will fall for their propaganda.

The see right wing in the US as everyone else in the world: dumb, susceptible to influcence and weakness to exploit.

Russian bots flood Twitter with pro-gun messages after Florida shooting: report | TheHill


What is this, the default fall back for when lefties don't want to believe the truth?


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Old 02-16-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Of course, no one is claiming that Russia caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election or caused people to switch positions in debating gun control, but keep tilting at windmills. Nuance is lost on the willfully ignorant who know it is easier to fight imaginary battles than intelligently address the actual point.


Except Hillary......




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Hillary Clinton Blames the Russians,

Hillary Clinton: The Russians, Facebook and Fake News Made Me Lose | Fortune
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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Didn't even read the OP, did we?

"Gun control" advocates push for "just a little more restriction"... and then just a little more after that. Really?

The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead. And yet they keep coming back and saying we need "just a little more" of their "reasonable restrictions".

When they point to countries whose results they like, they invariably point to places like England, Japan, Australia, etc. - countries that have almost completely banned guns from their subjects.

Take the hint.

In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation. Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Their total gun bans must be accompanied by SWAT teams going door to door to every house and apartment in America, taking people's guns whether they want to give them up or not. They know that many people will object to giving up their guns voluntarily... but a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.
Cannot find fault with this other than your thinly guised reference to citizens of those other countries as "subjects" while they have all been proven to have more individual freedoms across the board than members of your supposed "grand experiment".

America today has gone beyond the point of no return on this issue. Further; any attempt to perform the above confiscation would end in mass bloodshed the likes of which would make the Walking Dead look like a sunday picnic.

You're on the train and you ain't getting off it until it reaches it's final stop.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Default Show me a law that does not infringe on everyones individual right, that will prevent the next mass shooting?

All the emotional knee jerk responses I get, are completely unconstitutional.

Fact based
Emotion based

The fact is, my rights are not subject to your will.
Your emotions think they are.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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What is this, the default fall back for when lefties don't want to believe the truth?


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Well it sure beats the heck out of either "Hillary" or "Obama" considering it was once proven to be your most dangerous of enemies. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Just AR-15s and similar ones. You can keep your .22, shotgun, hunting rifle. Isn't that enough? If it isn't you should consider moving. If it takes moving heaven and earth to ensure your safety, sorry. It ain't happening.

I may have heard once about a country family calling 911 and being killed before the cops came.

This is an imaginary fear. It's being used like imaginary weapons. "What if the killer used a chainsaw? Should we ban them?" (or knife or car or egg beater)

Really?
However, you don't really understand what an AR-15 is

This is an Ar-15.



An AR-15 is just a lightweight gun that is magazine fed and gas operated semi-auto version of the M16. AR stands for Armalite rifle after the company that developed it in the 50's and doesn't mean assault rifle or automatic rifle. They are very common vermit hunting guns. There's no real difference between an AR-10 and an AR-15 except the media is telling you to fear the AR-15, versus the AR-10. Furthermore, a .22 can be just as lethal as an AR-15. AR-15's are just so popular so you hear about their lethality more.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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gun banners,
I guess you don't know that the AR15 is a 22 rifle, just a.223 round instead of .22 round. I have a 22 rifle from 1956 that performs exactly like the AR 15, hold the same size magazine, fires semi auto. it just looks different.
Most hunting rifles are semi auto and they fire exactly the same as the AR but use far larger rounds.
Before you post, know something about what you are posting.


And there is no "gun show loophole", individuals can sell guns privately to another individual anywhere. I think it was Oregon that passed a law to outlaw that and then figured out it was impossible to enforce. In spite of the rules on Facebook and Craigslist banning gun sales, they are sold on there daily. I see rifles here at yard sales.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by ffaemily View Post
An AR-15 is just a lightweight gun that is magazine fed and gas operated semi-auto version of the M16. AR stands for Armalite rifle after the company that developed it in the 50's and doesn't mean assault rifle or automatic rifle. They are very common vermit hunting guns. There's no real difference between an AR-10 and an AR-15 except the media is telling you to fear the AR-15, versus the AR-10. Furthermore, a .22 can be just as lethal as an AR-15. AR-15's are just so popular so you hear about their lethality more.
That BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) has the potential to be far more devastating than an AR-15 mostly due to the larger calibers it fires. They are also excellent hunting rifles.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
Just AR-15s and similar ones. You can keep your .22, shotgun, hunting rifle. Isn't that enough? If it isn't you should consider moving. If it takes moving heaven and earth to ensure your safety, sorry. It ain't happening.

I may have heard once about a country family calling 911 and being killed before the cops came.

This is an imaginary fear. It's being used like imaginary weapons. "What if the killer used a chainsaw? Should we ban them?" (or knife or car or egg beater)

Really?
Gee, thanks for TELLING me what I can keep, and can't keep. Who made you KING? The reason we have firearms is defend ourselves from people like you who want to rule our lives. Because you're smarter, and know better right? What a crock.

When crimes are still committed by CRIMINALS using guns, what will you come after next?
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