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Old 11-13-2017, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead. And yet they keep coming back and saying we need "just a little more" of their "reasonable restrictions".

When they point to countries whose results they like, they invariably point to places like England, Japan, Australia, etc. - countries that have almost completely banned guns from their subjects.

Take the hint.

In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation. Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Their total gun bans must be accompanied by SWAT teams going door to door to every house and apartment in America, taking people's guns whether they want to give them up or not. They know that many people will object to giving up their guns voluntarily... but a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.

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Old 11-13-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead.
We've never actually banned assault weapons. You can still buy them very easily.

There was legislation in the 90's that some people referred to as an "assault weapons ban," but that was not its purpose and referring to it as such is misinformation.


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In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation.
The confiscation doesn't need to be "ruthless," as long as people abide by the law it'll be fine.

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a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.
This isn't true, either.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Any hint of a gun ban results in an uptick in gun sales.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by Roboteer View Post
Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.
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We've never actually banned assault weapons.
See?

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The confiscation doesn't need to be "ruthless," as long as people abide by the law it'll be fine.
See? Thanks for the confirmation of the OP.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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We've never actually banned assault weapons. You can still buy them very easily.

There was legislation in the 90's that some people referred to as an "assault weapons ban," but that was not its purpose and referring to it as such is misinformation.




The confiscation doesn't need to be "ruthless," as long as people abide by the law it'll be fine.



This isn't true, either.
The so-called "assault weapons ban" of 1994 was a poorly written worthless piece of legislation. It was a feel-good law intended to drum up votes, for further restrictions. It only banned rifles based on looks. It had nothing to with functions. And statistics show that it accomplished absolutely nothing. The only good gun legislation in the last 50 years is the background check and it was proposed by the NRA. And the government won't prosecute violaters of that law.
But they keep trying to pass more worthless laws.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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See?
See?
all I see is you starting threads with your own "alternate facts"

there is no assault rifle ban, there's never been one, so it is erroneous to claim that an assault rifle ban "doesn't work"
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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all I see is you starting threads with your own "alternate facts"

there is no assault rifle ban, there's never been one, so it is erroneous to claim that an assault rifle ban "doesn't work"
Not many people own assault riles. The $200 permit and the $10,000 to $25,000 price tag limits ownership.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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Not many people own assault riles. The $200 permit and the $10,000 to $25,000 price tag limits ownership.
An AR-15 is an assault rifle and it only costs $500 - $2500
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Anti-gun "sensible" gun law: no guns for law abiding citizens - only criminals and government officials should have them.
 
Old 11-13-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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An AR-15 is an assault rifle and it only costs $500 - $2500
No, it is not an assault rifle. It is a semi-auto hunting rifle. An assault rifle must have select fire. See, you know nothing about guns, but you are against them.
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