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View Poll Results: Should Congress limit Trump's authority to launch a nuclear first strike?
Yes, Congress should limit his authority 39 55.71%
No, Congress should not limit his authority. 31 44.29%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-14-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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He's proven himself to be an emotional reactionary without the capabilities of intellectual or logical reasoning. He is confrontational by nature and immediately strikes out at those who he imagines have slighted him. No way he should be allowed to make the decision by himself. His minders and cult let him get away with any behavior he exhibits so he has no concept of consequences.

He has no grasp of the implications. Maybe someone could draw him a picture of what total destruction looks like.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Nope, wrong, again, seem the left has no clue what the definition of "treason" really is.


When he was my BN commander, he flew my ACFT...he did not become an 0-6 by being stupid...
and he told you things that were supposed to be secret, unless you are lying, of course.

what would you call blabbing secret defense info that could put the country at risk?
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Nothing to do with Trump, a nuclear first strike, one not prompted by an attack on US interests, should require a Declaration of War be issued by Congress.

By this republican congress? No way! There's really no one, anywhere in the Federal Government, who can be trusted with that. We've gone past the point of control and past the point of no return on that problem, long ago. We're been surviving on borrowed time, ever since they dropped the first one in 1945. We inadvertently invented the solution to the human infestation of earth problem and we all own it, for having let it develop. We should have been so horrified when those first bombs went off, that we demanded that it end, right there.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I wonder if Trump would actually have the gumption to push the button. Sure, he says terrible things on Twitter and TV, but I think he's all talk on many subjects. Talking about war is a lot easier than actually declaring war. I don't think he'd do it because he'd be risking his own death, if nothing else.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Iíll take a stab at it: colluding with a foreign government (long deemed hostile) to influence the result of a U.S. election?

Nope:


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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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and he told you things that were supposed to be secret, unless you are lying, of course.

what would you call blabbing secret defense info that could put the country at risk?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh....we both had SC....you're have the ability to discuss...somethings, not the true inner workings...but the protocol is fine.


If you'd read the definition of treason...you know what it is...
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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For that to be true why hasn't he already done it?
Talk is cheap. When the silos open up and missiles come out is another.

Talk gets ya'll rattled. Being troll in chief is quite effective at getting irrational expressed concern exposed.
rubbish, even trump would not pull the trigger until his back was to the wall and jail looked certain.

furthermore. spend more time understanding, i never implied i was "rattled" but i did clearly talk about NO POTUS should have the power to strike first. maybe you missed it in your zeal to protect lord trumpy.

frankly i believe trump would be a better POTUS if his fanbase were better people. he panders to their base nature and anger...
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:36 PM
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Congress holds the power to declare war and a nuclear first strike could hardly be described as anything but a declaration of war.

You'd lose this agreement on technicality my friend. I do agree with the assumption but if it's not written then it doesn't apply. This president can fire off whatever he wants without congressional approval. He just can't declare war on his own.
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You'd lose this agreement on technicality my friend. I do agree with the assumption but if it's not written then it doesn't apply. This president can fire off whatever he wants without congressional approval. He just can't declare war on his own.

WHERE did I say anything different?
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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It's not congress authority to limit the power of the president no matter if they like him or not, you are suggest " ok you can be president but don't touch nothing"
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