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Old 11-14-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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So if I don't pay, then I get to keep my money?
No, but if it was stealing, then the IRS would be arrested for larceny, and that doesn't happen, therefore not theft
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Overtaxation is legalized theft.

Our whole country was birthed from revolting against overtaxation. Boston Tea Party ring a bell?
It wasn't overtaxation, it was taxation without representation, since we were colonies of the UK.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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No, but if it was stealing, then the IRS would be arrested for larceny, and that doesn't happen, therefore not theft
Legalized theft is still theft.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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No, but if it was stealing, then the IRS would be arrested for larceny, and that doesn't happen, therefore not theft
Because they make the rules, and you believe them. Doesn't change what it is, which is taking something without the rightful owners permission.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What a total load of BS.

The "poor" in America are obese. How's that helping them?

Where's the compassion for the truly poor in third world countries?

If the desire was to help the most people possible, then the "poor" in the US would be eating beans and rice and donating to the real poor. But it's do as I say, not as I do.

We need to stop stealing from the rich and get back to voluntary, charity based welfare.

There are millions starving world wide, but we over tax so the "poor" can stock up on soda.
Exactly. Thereís a whole class of people that are idle by choice and then spend their free time causing problems, which then causes the police to get involve, which inevitably get into situations where someone gets hurt or killed, and then the Left screams police brutality. It all started with the Left and they donít even realize the societal problems that come from them.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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My agenda is to get people to leave each other alone as opposed to forcing a master plan on society by force, which makes me anti-political. That's another topic though.
But what if some of us don't want to leave each other alone? Aren't you then forcing your views on others?
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Because they make the rules, and you believe them. Doesn't change what it is, which is taking something without the rightful owners permission.
No one owns money, it belongs to the government, we "borrow" it.

And do you think our government and infrastructure pay for themselves? Money has to come from somewhere, and the vast majority are not cool with tolls and user fees, which are regressive.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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But there people in those exact same scenarios that do manage to move on to bigger better things. so what gives?!

Older immigrants tell stories of how they came here with a wife and maybe a kid and $300 in their pocket and now have successful businesses.
Most likely they are taking advantage of social programs and have help from friends, family and the community. Every truly successful person I've known or listened to has never said they did it on their own.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It wasn't overtaxation, it was taxation without representation, since we were colonies of the UK.
And you think that the colonists would be fine with the high taxes as long as they had representation?
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Because they make the rules, and you believe them. Doesn't change what it is, which is taking something without the rightful owners permission.
Ridiculous. Your attitude works in the Congo. No taxes, no regulations, extreme poverty, diseases, terrible infrastructure, pure freedom.

Why do you keep carrying the water for the oligarchy that laugh in your face?
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