Helping the poor vs. Punishing the rich (Wisconsin, poverty, workers)
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Who do the "trade unions' work for mainly? Corporations. And they stifle out completion for the jobs. Again, they were probably called for at one time, but now operate like monopolies and rackets in many respects. They may still have their place but are in no way free from scrutiny nor should they be.
You call the corporation 'The well equipped platoon' but fail to see or acknowledge that is what the unions themselves became in many ways, the cronies for corporations. Have you watched 'On the Waterfront'? Is that corporate propaganda?
Good luck trying to have a functioning democracy without strong unions.
There is a reason why workers lose every time when capital is organized and labor is not.
Give me one example where the government closely listen to and reflect the will of the people while unions are destroyed?
If the middle class wants a to be like a Scandinavian country they should want to pay much more in taxes as well, because that is how those countries operate. I doubt they will want to.
Yep, several of us have tried explaining that to the lefties. Look at how they scream and wail when asked to pay their fair share like the Europeans do.
They "want, want, WANT!!!" all those social programs, but REFUSE to pay their share of the taxes required to fund them.
Greedy arseholes is all they are: "Gimme! Gimme! GIMME!!!!! And then GIMME MORE!!!!!"
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The U.S. has a different economic system however that U.S. socialism has harmed as much as it has helped.
The unions fought the big corporate giants in the early 20th century for some good reasons when it was probably called for but then they became a corrupted power structure which led to the offshoring of many jobs and the decline of the middle class. Unions have created monopolies and are full of nepotism, complacent and apathetic attitudes and corruption.
It should be easy to get a job in the U.S. but things like increasing minimum wages make no sense in this regard. The democrats have gentrified many places making rents very high and are also in favor of open borders which drives up rents and lowers supply. Rampant divorce rates are bad.
There are not many truly 'poor' people in the U.S. but homelessness is always a big concern for the financially challenged. The democrat's economic policies do not help the homelessness problem, they add to it. I would argue this point with anyone.
I think it's obvious that the rich can both afford more and pay more in taxes. That really shouldn't need to be stated.
What I question is the idea that expanding welfare benefits will solve any problems. What's lacking in today's society is people willing to accept responsibility for their own life choices. I understand that teen pregnancies happen. Kids pretending to be adults rarely ends with success. Dead beat dads being allowed to escape responsibility for father children they refuse to support? That we can change.
Dumping money into bad school systems without any reasonable oversight or quality control is a demonstrated mistake.
There is a fine line between helping and enabling. It seems to me that far too many of our programs enable rather than solve or even help.
This same problem applies to our very wasteful approach to our military budget. It's for national defense is the rallying cry to justify pork spending on things even the military doesn't want nor asked for.
Obama started a class war that has expanded and grown. Somehow the left feels that the have nots are entitled to the earnings of the haves. As if those of us who have more owe more to those who have less.
What we all deserve is a federal government that spends money as if it's coming out of their own pockets.
Yep, several of us have tried explaining that to the lefties. Look at how they scream and wail when asked to pay their fair share like the Europeans do.
They "want, want, WANT!!!" all those social programs, but REFUSE to pay their share of the taxes required to fund them.
Greedy arseholes is all they are: "Gimme! Gimme! GIMME!!!!! And then GIMME MORE!!!!!"
Few people are against paying $5000 more in taxes and no longer having to pay $10 000 a year in private health insurance. Just like most people are not against Social Security nor Medicare, unlike you who want to abolish both programs. People are not against higher taxes for public services but it needs to take into account the extreme inequality in America as a result of destroyed unions. Thats not something you take into account at all.
What you constantly advocate for though is the destruction of unions, sky high income inequality, lower taxes on the rich, high sales tax and then claim that "this is regressive, this is Europe, this is good".
So... he deliberately funded a BK relocation to Canada to take advantage of their lower tax rates, why?
Why not just refuse and tell BK they should just suck it up and pay the US corporate tax rate?
Why?
Because he used resources that aren't available to any small business owner or non-ultra-wealthy tax payer.
"The real problem, in my view, is ... the prosperity has been unbelievable for the extremely rich people" Buffett told PBS Newshour in June
"If you go to 1982, when Forbes put on their first 400 list, those people had [a total of] $93 billion. They now have $2.4 trillion, [a multiple of] 25 for one," he said in June. "This has been a prosperity that's been disproportionately rewarding to the people on top."
Oh please. I've run out of sympathy for the ultra-wealthy who complain about everything. If they don't like the US, they can take their business elsewhere. The free-market dictates that someone else will take their place if the business model was even worthwhile to begin with.
See above for an example of what I was talking about.
Being unemployed and therefore having no income generally results in poverty.
Unless you're ultra-wealthy or a trust-fund baby and have never had to put in a hard day of work in your life.
Correlation does not imply causation.
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