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Old 11-16-2017, 05:10 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
You’re looking at 2015, not 2016. And even if you were right, you’ve obviously missed the point.
I did not use 2016s data as Florida's numbers aren't posted. It's incomplete. (Florida had 1,111 murders in 16 but it does not tell how many were carried out using a firearm)

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-12
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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And if you don't and the court has knowledge that you have guns they can issue a warrant for your arrest for violating the restraining order, they cannot send the cops out to search your house, what is it that you don't understand about that?
It's funny that you're calling me out for not understanding something when you either can't comprehend or didn't read the explicit California law at the link I posted. I'll spoon feed it to you:

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CHAPTER 3. Of Search Warrants [1523 - 1542.5] ( Chapter 3 enacted 1872. )

1524. (a) A search warrant may be issued upon any of the following grounds:
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(11) When the property or things to be seized include a firearm that is owned by, or in the possession of, or in the custody or control of, a person who is subject to the prohibitions regarding firearms pursuant to Section 6389 of the Family Code, if a prohibited firearm is possessed, owned, in the custody of, or controlled by a person against whom a protective order has been issued pursuant to Section 6218 of the Family Code, the person has been lawfully served with that order, and the person has failed to relinquish the firearm as required by law.
That's a search warrant, not an arrest warrant, to come into the home to search for and confiscate firearms from someone subject to a restraining order who does not turn them in. The violation of the restraining order is a separate issue (which they also apparently didn't enforce).
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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It's funny that you're calling me out for not understanding something when you either can't comprehend or didn't read the explicit California law at the link I posted. I'll spoon feed it to you:


That's a search warrant, not an arrest warrant, to come into the home to search for and confiscate firearms from someone subject to a restraining order who does not turn them in. The violation of the restraining order is a separate issue (which they also apparently didn't enforce).
Law enforcement error is irrelevant these days don't ya know...
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:00 AM
 
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Australia had a mentally illness mass shooter kill 35 people. Because they weren't morons, they realized that there is always going to be mentally ill people and its much easier to get rid of guns then monitor people. so they got rid of guns. This was in 1996. They haven't had a single spree shooting since.
No but they have had several arson fires instead. Criminals just switched methods.
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It's funny that you're calling me out for not understanding something when you either can't comprehend or didn't read the explicit California law at the link I posted. I'll spoon feed it to you:
That's a search warrant, not an arrest warrant, to come into the home to search for and confiscate firearms from someone subject to a restraining order who does not turn them in. The violation of the restraining order is a separate issue (which they also apparently didn't enforce).
A search warrant 'may be issued' for any number of reasons. That doesn't change what I said, which is a restraining order does not by itself give law enforcement a right to enter a home to search for weapons.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:28 AM
 
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lol I guess you think you got me with that one huh? They are functionally the same weapon the differences being mostly cosmetic. I would have no problem with either if they had a fixed magazine capable of no more than 5 rounds.
Know one needs more then 5 rounds right ?
Homeowner shoots, kills two home invasion suspects | MLive.com
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Old 11-20-2017, 05:23 AM
 
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Know one needs more then 5 rounds right ?
Homeowner shoots, kills two home invasion suspects | MLive.com
Homeowner should get a medal.
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Old 11-20-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Know one needs more then 5 rounds right ?
Homeowner shoots, kills two home invasion suspects | MLive.com
I read it but where does it say how many rounds were fired?
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