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Old 11-15-2017, 09:30 AM
 
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I have never had problems with Eastern Europeans being critical of the US to me. They have always been warm and kind to us.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I am getting the impression that Europeans are unfriendly, superior, hypercritical, judgemental, inflexible, and intolerant.
I don't think there is a massive cultural difference in relation to Anglosphere countries, and most Americans would feel fairly much at home in parts of Australia, New Zealand, UK, Ireland and of course Canada.

There are a couple of differences such as not as much tipping is expected and wit the exception of Canada all the above countries drive on the left rather than the right.

Americans tend to be fine with the British and are mainly polite from my own personal experience and they tend to dress okay as far as I am concerned. We have a lot of US Fashion Chains in the UK and Europe such as Gap and Abercrombie & Fitch.

Whilst the same is true in relation to fast food with plenty of international chains, the lastest planning major UK expansion being Tim Hortons, IHOP and Dennys, so you can even get your coffee and pancakes for breakfast.

The 24 Hour Night Tube in London has also improved night life and entertainment.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: England
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[quote=boneyard1962;50134988] The Brits tend to be polite while still being condescending. /QUOTE]

It's our speciality......... Of course we are condescending! We have a lot to put up with when we travel.

The French - can't stand em. They don't like us either.

The Germans - I can spot them from a hundred yards away. They walk with a swagger, and grunt a lot. They don't like my favourite t-shirt. Two World Wars....... England 2 Germany 0. No sense of humour at all.

The Japanese - they travel in swarms, and take photos of everything, no matter how inane.

The Italians - deep pockets, and short arms. Four of them in a cafe....... one coffee, and four straws.

The Turkish - don't leave your wife to go to the toilet. We went on holiday to Turkey over 20 years ago. I stopped at the toilet in the bar. By the time I got to our room, my wife was stood there clutching her bag to her chest. The waiter had followed her, and entered the room. I stared at him in amazement...... he said, "I tuck", and made tucking someone up in bed hand movements. I said, "I DO THE TUCKING. NOT YOU."

The Greeks - The bars are full of Greek men. Their women are at home cooking, and doing the washing up.

The Spanish - They don't understand the concept of standing in line, and just barge by you, especially waiting for the lift. I soon learned to use my elbows as well. The Germans are similar in this regard.

The Americans - well, I, like most English people, love Americans. They can surprise me though. We were placed at a table with two Americans to watch a show in Las Vegas. We smiled at each other and nodded. As the show started, the guy shouted 'YE HAA' right in my ear. That was unexpected.

The only thing I find odd rather than strange, is how Americans play with their food. I watch them carefully cut up their food with a knife and fork. Takes them ages. Then they put the knife down, and slowly eat the food using only the fork. By the time they have finished playing with it, I have eaten all mine...... Oh, and mixing sweet foods with savoury on the same plate...... eating the two together. Just so strange to me.

But, other than that, I have no problems with Americans. Very friendly, and often tell me to come visit them at home in Nebraska or somewhere like that. Even give me their address on a piece of paper. We smile at the thought of actually turning up, and what the reaction would be.......
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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The Brits tend to be polite while still being condescending. /QUOTE]

It's our speciality......... Of course we are condescending! We have a lot to put up with when we travel.

The French - can't stand em. They don't like us either.

The Germans - I can spot them from a hundred yards away. They walk with a swagger, and grunt a lot. They don't like my favourite t-shirt. Two World Wars....... England 2 Germany 0. No sense of humour at all.

The Japanese - they travel in swarms, and take photos of everything, no matter how inane.

The Italians - deep pockets, and short arms. Four of them in a cafe....... one coffee, and four straws.

The Turkish - don't leave your wife to go to the toilet. We went on holiday to Turkey over 20 years ago. I stopped at the toilet in the bar. By the time I got to our room, my wife was stood there clutching her bag to her chest. The waiter had followed her, and entered the room. I stared at him in amazement...... he said, "I tuck", and made tucking someone up in bed hand movements. I said, "I DO THE TUCKING. NOT YOU."

The Greeks - The bars are full of Greek men. Their women are at home cooking, and doing the washing up.

The Spanish - They don't understand the concept of standing in line, and just barge by you, especially waiting for the lift. I soon learned to use my elbows as well. The Germans are similar in this regard.

The Americans - well, I, like most English people, love Americans. They can surprise me though. We were placed at a table with two Americans to watch a show in Las Vegas. We smiled at each other and nodded. As the show started, the guy shouted 'YE HAA' right in my ear. That was unexpected.

The only thing I find odd rather than strange, is how Americans play with their food. I watch them carefully cut up their food with a knife and fork. Takes them ages. Then they put the knife down, and slowly eat the food using only the fork. By the time they have finished playing with it, I have eaten all mine...... Oh, and mixing sweet foods with savoury on the same plate...... eating the two together. Just so strange to me.

But, other than that, I have no problems with Americans. Very friendly, and often tell me to come visit them at home in Nebraska or somewhere like that. Even give me their address on a piece of paper. We smile at the thought of actually turning up, and what the reaction would be.......
lol. I found in the midwest they sometimes really mean it, they will invite a stranger to Christmas dinner and be serious. Maybe the south too?

Yes to Turkey. I tuck, uh-huh. I think it was Turkey where they kept trying to touch my friend's hair.

The American shouting Yee-ha! at the Vegas show is about right. Some 'Muricans just can't contain their enthusiasm.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Windy City
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I am well traveled, meaning I travel a lot. Some stereotypes are re-enforced by demonstrated behavior.
What I have seen:
Stereotype 1: Americans are loud and obnoxious. LOL I see it every trip. Americans seem to think if they speak English louder that non-english speakers will understand it better. I see it every trip. Then when the non-english speaker doesn't get it, the American becomes irate and starts to argue with the person. I see it every trip.

Stereotype 2: Americans are fat. LOL It seems only Americans are comfortable wearing spandex pants and tube tops on a plane, when they are 100 pounds over weight. They are easily identified by referring to stereotype 1.

Stereotype 3:Americans are not good parents. Every trip I see the same thing. Americans in hotels with children. Americans seem to think that the hotel staff are also child care providers. They send their kids to the pool unattended or simply let their children roam at will. I have seen kids 8 years old and up, sometimes younger walking from their hotel room to the pool unattended. Unattended children are at risk. Many countries don't have life guards at hotel pools. Odd but they feel the parents should be caring for their own children. When the kids act out or are flat out bad, hotel staff will escort them back to their rooms. At which point, review Stereotype1.

Stereotype 4: Americans and white socks. LOL I am also guilty of this. You can see an American a mile away. The white socks gives us away.

Stereotype 5: Pushy behavior. I see this one every trip as well. Americans become very demanding very fast. As soon as they become even a little annoyed they raise their voices and start talking to staff in a demeaning manner. We are rude. Then without fail you hear the phrase "well that's not how we do it in America." I cringe every time.
I can go on and on.
I travel frequently as well and have witnessed all of the things you mentioned.

But honestly I think it's less about Americans and more about "this is what happens when uneducated buffoons travel abroad".
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Europeans. They love to act superior.
Kind of like americans.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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English Dave - I so enjoyed your write-up! Very funny and I recognize at least some of it.

I've traveled widely and am always fascinated with how different the cultures are, one country from the next, in Europe. There are some distinct cultural differences in regions of America as well but not as dramatic.

I lived in the Southeastern USA for over 25 years (but am not from there) and the vast majority of Southerners I knew had never lived outside the region. Many people don't realize that that part of the country was, and still largely is, very homogeneous. It was settled primarily by English planters so the influence for over 250 years has been mostly Anglo.

Well, if someone grows up around people largely like themselves, travels little and never lives anywhere else, then they wouldn't understand how deeply varied cultures can be, would they? (LOL, I'm always amused by the very English habit of making a statement via an indisputable question.) So, when I'd speak about various cultural predispositions/habits to Southern friends, I'd almost always get blank looks. They just truly do not understand other cultures...and don't seem to care (probably a Baptist thing). Sad, really.

And, a hearty thumbs-up to the British, Australians and New Zealanders for having noticeably better grammar, spelling and puncuation than Americans. Your post is an example.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: England
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English Dave - I so enjoyed your write-up! Very funny and I recognize at least some of it.

I've traveled widely and am always fascinated with how different the cultures are, one country from the next, in Europe. There are some distinct cultural differences in regions of America as well but not as dramatic.

I lived in the Southeastern USA for over 25 years (but am not from there) and the vast majority of Southerners I knew had never lived outside the region. Many people don't realize that that part of the country was, and still largely is, very homogeneous. It was settled primarily by English planters so the influence for over 250 years has been mostly Anglo.

Well, if someone grows up around people largely like themselves, travels little and never lives anywhere else, then they wouldn't understand how deeply varied cultures can be, would they? (LOL, I'm always amused by the very English habit of making a statement via an indisputable question.) So, when I'd speak about various cultural predispositions/habits to Southern friends, I'd almost always get blank looks. They just truly do not understand other cultures...and don't seem to care (probably a Baptist thing). Sad, really.

And, a hearty thumbs-up to the British, Australians and New Zealanders for having noticeably better grammar, spelling and puncuation than Americans. Your post is an example.
Glad I made you smile. I'm not going to knock Americans. In the main, polite people, and very friendly I find. I'll take Americans anytime rather than most Europeans. As you know, we're trying to leave their little EU club at the moment, and they don't like it. Some true colours being shown in attitude to us, by them.

Of course my grammar, spelling and punctuation are good. I didn't leave school until I was 14......... I believe they make them stay in school until they're 16 nowadays in England....... total waste of time. You don't learn anything after you're 10 years old that you ever need. Algebra anyone?
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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The Italians - deep pockets, and short arms. Four of them in a cafe....... one coffee, and four straws.
I lived in Italy for years and yes they are extremely cheap.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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It's our speciality......... Of course we are condescending! We have a lot to put up with when we travel.

The French - can't stand em. They don't like us either.

The Germans - I can spot them from a hundred yards away. They walk with a swagger, and grunt a lot. They don't like my favourite t-shirt. Two World Wars....... England 2 Germany 0. No sense of humour at all.

The Japanese - they travel in swarms, and take photos of everything, no matter how inane.

The Italians - deep pockets, and short arms. Four of them in a cafe....... one coffee, and four straws.

The Turkish - don't leave your wife to go to the toilet. We went on holiday to Turkey over 20 years ago. I stopped at the toilet in the bar. By the time I got to our room, my wife was stood there clutching her bag to her chest. The waiter had followed her, and entered the room. I stared at him in amazement...... he said, "I tuck", and made tucking someone up in bed hand movements. I said, "I DO THE TUCKING. NOT YOU."

The Greeks - The bars are full of Greek men. Their women are at home cooking, and doing the washing up.

The Spanish - They don't understand the concept of standing in line, and just barge by you, especially waiting for the lift. I soon learned to use my elbows as well. The Germans are similar in this regard.

The Americans - well, I, like most English people, love Americans. They can surprise me though. We were placed at a table with two Americans to watch a show in Las Vegas. We smiled at each other and nodded. As the show started, the guy shouted 'YE HAA' right in my ear. That was unexpected.

The only thing I find odd rather than strange, is how Americans play with their food. I watch them carefully cut up their food with a knife and fork. Takes them ages. Then they put the knife down, and slowly eat the food using only the fork. By the time they have finished playing with it, I have eaten all mine...... Oh, and mixing sweet foods with savoury on the same plate...... eating the two together. Just so strange to me.

But, other than that, I have no problems with Americans. Very friendly, and often tell me to come visit them at home in Nebraska or somewhere like that. Even give me their address on a piece of paper. We smile at the thought of actually turning up, and what the reaction would be.......
Great post. Good humor in it.
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