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Old 11-19-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by heavyweight View Post
The fact that teachers have to purchase classroom materials at their own personal expense is a national embarrassment.
The fact that we spend more per student than nearly every other western country and have such abysmal results is the national embarrassment.

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GOP is starving the public education system
To reiterate, we spend more per student that nearly every other western country. Here in PA for example we spend about $16K per student, with would be comparable to what the very small and rich nation of Switzerland spends
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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And if it's all so dang profitable, why does tuition keep going up?
You're barking up the wrong tree, the football and basketball programs at these larger schools not only fund themselves but fund a whol lot of other things like many of the women's sports programs that do not generate much revenue.
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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The GOP hates education. They also went after students seeking a Ph.D.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ltaE6Bifw
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Hmm, where are these teachers located? I'm just asking because for my kid's entire school careers I have been asked to not only buy my kid's supplies, but also many other items that might be needed in the classrooms. Kleenex, paper towels, crayons, markers, notebook paper, construction paper, copy paper, glue, the list goes on and on and on. Any science projects which required materials I received a note from the teachers with a list of stuff to buy for my children's projects. So seriously, what are these teachers paying for out of pocket?.......
Notice that much on your list used to be considered must haves. School boards have slowly declared many of them nonessential even though the adopted curriculum specifies their use (construction paper, glue, etc.)

What do teachers buy?
Copy paper
Toilet paper
Hand sanitizer
Everything on your list because some parents send their kids to school with absolutely nothing
Field trips, for the previous reason
Lunch for some kids, same as above reason
Crutches. I gave a kid a set. He could barely walk and his parents refused to take him to the doctor. Yes, it was also a mandatory report.
Winter coats, mittens, etc.
AP test fees
Chalk/markers for the boards
US flag, school ran out of them
Printer ink
Virus protection for the school supplied laptop which came without it
Baby crib, kid was going to have her baby and it was going to sleep in a cardboard box on the floor. I later had the baby now an 11th grader in class
Bulletin board stuff (bulletin boards being an extremely important part of teacher evaluation)
Sticky traps for mice, school system didn't pay the supplier so the order was suspended
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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The GOP hates education.
To reiterate we spend more per student than nearly every other nation. Where are the results?
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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To reiterate we spend more per student than nearly every other nation. Where are the results?
Look to the cost breakdown. Special Ed is a huge component of the per pupil cost. One kid in outplacement, and I'll bet your system has 3 or 4, is $300K/year.

A one on one aide is likely a $30K/year, or more, loaded cost. I had classes over the years where I had a one on one in every class.
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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The GOP hates education. They also went after students seeking a Ph.D.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ltaE6Bifw
I believe funding for the Department of Education, doubled under Bush...
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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They're trying to simplify the tax code so it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out how much you should be paying. 99% of the teachers in the country will be getting a large tax cut, it will more than make up for whatever supplies they feel as though they need. How many teachers do you think itemize anyway? and how much are they paying someone to do it?
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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You're barking up the wrong tree, the football and basketball programs at these larger schools not only fund themselves but fund a whol lot of other things like many of the women's sports programs that do not generate much revenue.
Here and there. Not as a whole

"For almost every other university, sports is a money-losing proposition. Only big-time college football has a chance of generating enough net revenue to cover not only its own costs but those of “Olympic” sports like field hockey, gymnastics, and swimming. Not even men’s basketball at places like Duke University or the University of Kansas can generate enough revenue to make programs profitable.

As a result, most colleges and universities rely on what the NCAA calls “allocated revenue.” This includes direct and indirect support from general funds, student fees, and government appropriations. In other words, most colleges subsidize their athletics programs, sometimes to startling degrees."

Myth: College Sports Are a Cash Cow
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Old 11-19-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Sure. But do increase the prison budget. Do the repugs have any brains left ??
The private prison industry can fund campaigns, silly.
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