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Old 11-16-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The groping suspect approached the jogger from behind in the attack on Friday at 6am, police said, which happened near Liberty Park in the city.

The jogger turned on the suspect and stabbed him multiple times, before chasing him past a nearby bus stop and down an alleyway, where the attacker got away, KUTV reports.
The governor of Minnesota should appoint this woman jogger to the Senate to replace Al Franken after he resigns.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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To my mind it shows a threat. That escalation is forthcoming. A man who gropes a woman is more than just a bad mannered twit. Groping is a physical assault. I'll back off my temper a bit(I'm not a good one to ask about this) and temper level of response befitting a particular situation. On the street by some total stranger out of the blue if the groper is still standing there when a woman spins on him, his total bad.

He shouldn't be surprised if he's staring down the barrel of a pistol. If he grabs and runs like a rabbit, pursuit should not be taken, but the police need to be looking for the creep. Such actions could easily escalate to attempted rape.

Some drunk cretin at an office party who does this should expect a flat palm strike to his nose. Point is, groping does warrant a physical response. A woman has complete right to her physical space and also a complete right to defend said space. How she does so is of any of my business.

Groping is just a completely brain dead action. The woman being groped may have suffered being raped and if this is the case her response is likely to be quite violent. And there's no way to know. Enter a woman's personal space uninvited at your own risk.
It is everyones business. You don't get any special rights because you're a woman. That's an emotional, irrational point of view. Just like your point that a grope will turn into rape. Really? That's where you're going with this? An obscure example that somehow rationalizes your use of force?
Only enough force that is necessary to make the person stop. You want to open hand attention getting smack someone okay I get it, no biggie. A grope isn't a reason to bloody someones nose. Someone walks by and pinches your backside you don't get to hit them over the head with a coffee pot and not be held accountable. If the perpetrator is grabbing for all they're worth then yes defend yourself.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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It is everyones business. You don't get any special rights because you're a woman. That's an emotional, irrational point of view. Just like your point that a grope will turn into rape. Really? That's where you're going with this? An obscure example that somehow rationalizes your use of force?
Only enough force that is necessary to make the person stop. You want to open hand attention getting smack someone okay I get it, no biggie. A grope isn't a reason to bloody someones nose. Someone walks by and pinches your backside you don't get to hit them over the head with a coffee pot and not be held accountable. If the perpetrator is grabbing for all they're worth then yes defend yourself.
Yes you can.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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I don't know the details, but it would be hard to justify lethal force for simply being grouped.

We would need a lot more details before we could know if this level of force was justified.
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Police believe the suspect has minor wounds to his chest and arms.
Good for the jogger for taking steps to protect herself.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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It is everyones business. You don't get any special rights because you're a woman. That's an emotional, irrational point of view. Just like your point that a grope will turn into rape. Really? That's where you're going with this? An obscure example that somehow rationalizes your use of force?
Only enough force that is necessary to make the person stop. You want to open hand attention getting smack someone okay I get it, no biggie. A grope isn't a reason to bloody someones nose. Someone walks by and pinches your backside you don't get to hit them over the head with a coffee pot and not be held accountable. If the perpetrator is grabbing for all they're worth then yes defend yourself.
If someone gropes someone else, that person has every reason to punch them square in the face, or knee them right in the balls.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes you can.
lol of course one is physically able to do. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Just to be clear Chivalry has nothing to do with bodily harm.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If someone gropes someone else, that person has every reason to punch them square in the face, or knee them right in the balls.
The balls? Really? I see how it is with sexist people like you. Women aren't "grabby"?
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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lol of course one is physically able to do. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
Just to be clear Chivalry has nothing to do with bodily harm.
If someone walks up to some woman on the street and pinches her butt, she has every right to strike back.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If someone walks up to some woman on the street and pinches her butt, she has every right to strike back.
In order to stop an assault. A get off me smack? Okay But forceful paybacks get you time. For the most part anyway.

Shes lucky he wasn't a physically aggressive man. She could have been the one bleeding or worse. The idea is to be aware of your surroundings and to not engage unless you're being physically hit. A butt pinch isn't a threat.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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In order to stop an assault. A get off me smack? Okay But forceful paybacks get you time. For the most part anyway.

Shes lucky he wasn't a physically aggressive man. She could have been the one bleeding or worse. The idea is to be aware of your surroundings and to not engage unless you're being physically hit. A butt pinch isn't a threat.
And yet it is.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/201...-arrested.html
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