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Old 11-15-2017, 10:40 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Gotta lol that there isnít one mention of the real culprit behind the rising costs - the fín insurance companies. Remove the middle man and watch costs plummet.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:40 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I guess he doesn't work for a union then. That's too bad
Not many industries have unions anymore. Outsourcing and illegal immigrants have allowed employers to avoid unions.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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I think it's foolish, but I can't say that I blame them.
Everyone has to pay for health insurance because it makes it cheaper for all of us and gives us greater benefits. If someone who doesn't have health insurance gets into an accident where they may be disabled for life....who do you think pays for it. All of us do and our premiums go up because of it.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:50 PM
 
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Everyone has to pay for health insurance because it makes it cheaper for all of us and gives us greater benefits. If someone who doesn't have health insurance gets into an accident where they may be disabled for life....who do you think pays for it. All of us do and our premiums go up because of it.
We were told premiums would go down after the ACA was passed due to all these people previously uninsured suddenly becoming insured. My premiums have skyrocketed. So your statement has thus far proven untrue.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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I hope it does and I don't care who loses insurance and don't whine "what about the poor", do the poor give a damn if I lose insurance, of course they don't.
Huh. Well, I'm not poor by any means, but I don't see any reason they should care. I've read enough of your hateful, angry posts over the years, whining and attacking liberals, minorities, the poor, and the disabled, that if you don't care what happens to them, I don't have any sympathy for you. Dog eat dog, and everyone for themselves, right? You're just another casualty of the class war, far as I'm concerned.



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As we all know. Obamacare passed without one republican vote, and it stays because Democrats would was determined to keep the law knowing full well it hurt people.
I can't tell if you're just really really awful at math, or if you just have absolutely no clue how our system of government works. The reason the ACA "stays" is not because the Democrats wanted to keep it - it's because your own REPUBLICANS didn't vote to repeal it! Find a liberal to explain the math to you - 52 Republicans in the United States Senate, and all they needed to repeal the ACA were 50 of those 52. They couldn't repeal it because they couldn't even get their own REPUBLICANS to agree that the ACA should be repealed.

The Democrats didn't need to do a damned thing. The reason the ACA is still the law of the land is because the Republican Party chose NOT to repeal it. Stew in that for the next couple of decades, OK?
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:57 PM
 
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We were told premiums would go down after the ACA was passed due to all these people previously uninsured suddenly becoming insured. My premiums have skyrocketed. So your statement has thus far proven untrue.
So you fix it and don't gut it when millions would lose their insurance
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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Everyone has to pay for health insurance because it makes it cheaper for all of us and gives us greater benefits. If someone who doesn't have health insurance gets into an accident where they may be disabled for life....who do you think pays for it. All of us do and our premiums go up because of it.
People are getting priced out of having health care insurance.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:59 PM
 
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People are getting priced out of having health care insurance.
And people who have insurance have to pay for you because you can't afford it. How is that fair.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Western Asia
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Obamacare is crap for us and our kids. There were some that benefitted so good for them but to me the overall plan sux because it doesn't address the number 1 problem of our health system....COST.
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Old 11-15-2017, 11:00 PM
 
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I can't tell if you're just really really awful at math, or if you just have absolutely no clue how our system of government works. The reason the ACA "stays" is not because the Democrats wanted to keep it - it's because your own REPUBLICANS didn't vote to repeal it! Find a liberal to explain the math to you - 52 Republicans in the United States Senate, and all they needed to repeal the ACA were 50 of those 52. They couldn't repeal it because they couldn't even get their own REPUBLICANS to agree that the ACA should be repealed.

The Democrats didn't need to do a damned thing. The reason the ACA is still the law of the land is because the Republican Party chose NOT to repeal it. Stew in that for the next couple of decades, OK?
The reason ACA is law is because Democrats got it pushed through in the first place, common sense said that it wasn't going to work. Yes some idiot republicans voted against it's repeal. I don't really give a damn anymore. I'm just not paying it.
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