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Old 11-16-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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No, I want to give the most wealthy a tax cut and increase taxes on the struggling middle class to fund your $27 trillion dollar union slush fund.
Not my slush fund. Who promised those pensions? Not me.

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I used to be a supporter of public pensions until I read your entitled BS!
I've never been a public employee, nor do I have a public pension. /shrug
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:12 AM
 
Location: USA
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This is completely irrelevant.

No it is not. Corporations DON"T PAY TAXES. They are passed through to the consumer to maintain their gross margins (profit). If the consumer can't pay the company eventually goes bankrupt because their cost structure is out of line.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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I think people seriously believe that there are groves of MONEY Trees that the Federal government own that actually provide the Cash to run things, support pensions, provide the jobs & goods that we all depend on.

Yes - CaLPERS is a good example of how Investments support those on a Pension. I don't know if they are the Largest in the USA, but they claim to be one of the Largest in the World.

About the Investment Office - CaLPERS.org
Liberals get angry when they're told the truth that if corporations aren't allowed to earn profits, pensions don't get paid and retirement accounts don't appreciate in value. /shrug
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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Is the criteria at City Data now that if a LINK is posted, that means the person that posted the LINK "supports" what it says?? That's very strange.

It's also pretty strange to assert that there are no "public sector pensions" in the State of Texas.
It's also very incorrect. Where do people get such wild ideas?
They're ignorant. You can tell that just by reading this thread. /shrug
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:13 AM
 
Location: USA
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Let's talk about the REAL transfer of wealth. Taxes that are way too high, and onerous to fund every social program know to man that only keeps people in poverty, and dependent.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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Nope. CalPERS is the largest US investor. Are California's public employees/retirees the top 1%? NO.
You realize this is a SINGLE data point (datum), right? CalPERS could be the single largest US investor and still only hold 5% of the stock. And the majority of the benefit could go to the rich.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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You realize this is a SINGLE data point (datum), right? CalPERS could be the single largest US investor and still only hold 5% of the stock. And the majority of the benefit could go to the rich.
The rich don't have $27 trillion in assets. American workers'/retirees' pension plans/retirement accounts do.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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Nothing but pure partisan B.S.!

You are so far off base there is no reason to attempt to have an "honest" discussion with you.

Post FAIL!
I strongly encourage you to not have any discussion with me, neither an "honest one" nor your usual kind!
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:23 AM
 
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Not my slush fund. Who promised those pensions? Not me.

I've never been a public employee, nor do I have a public pension. /shrug
So your entire game of mock outrage about people losing their pensions was merely disingenuous?

What I thought!
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/de...?siteid=YAHOOB

The way that the GOP tax cut is structured the middle class will be financing tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations that are already seeing record profits. Wages are not going up and will not go up.
Straight from the Democrat "talking points." Nothing has changed. Democrats do not want you to keep more of your money.
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