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Put it this way. I'd be surprised if she got to where she is by being a "good girl". We know all about Hooters, Playboy and Fox......but it's always what we don't know that provides the surprise.
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What do her other jobs have to do with this incident? Nothing at all. She was sleeping. Even if she had been a porn star, she did not consent to Creepy Al groping at her.
I also have no sympathy for the actresses who WILLINGLY (not forced, beaten, raped) and KNOWINGLY did the casting couch in exchange for a job they wanted and then complain they were harassed.
You had a choice: Say yes, I'll do it, and then take the job, or say no and walk away. And then tell everyone about it RIGHT AT THAT TIME. Otherwise you let yourself into that situation, eyes open.
Has anyone heard from an actress that did NOT get a job because she DECLINED unwanted advances?
Yes. Angelina Jolie was among many others who walked away from Weinstein's advances and refused to ever work with him again. It goes without saying since he was the biggest name in the business these women lost out on many roles. He was seen as an Oscar guru too as so many of his movies had winners.
Rosanna Arquette mentions a specific role she lost in this article. Heather Graham named some role too, but there are so many articles I can't keep up.
Arquette said “she tried to recommend a professional masseuse, but Mr. Weinstein grabbed her hand and pulled it toward his crotch.” She immediately withdrew from the interaction, causing Weinstein to boast about “the famous actresses he had supposedly slept with.” He then said, “‘Rosanna, you’re making a big mistake.’” In response, Arquette said to Weinstein that she wasn’t “that girl.”
“I will never be that girl,” she said as she left the hotel. She didn’t get the part she went to get the script for.https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0cee762dd8bf1
I also think it may have been easier for those two as they came from high profile acting families.
Yes. Angelina Jolie was among many others who walked away from Weinstein's advances and refused to ever work with him again. It goes without saying since he was the biggest name in the business these women lost out on many roles. He was seen as an Oscar guru too as so many of his movies had winners.
Rosanna Arquette mentions a specific role she lost in this article. Heather Graham named some role too, but there are so many articles I can't keep up.
Arquette said “she tried to recommend a professional masseuse, but Mr. Weinstein grabbed her hand and pulled it toward his crotch.” She immediately withdrew from the interaction, causing Weinstein to boast about “the famous actresses he had supposedly slept with.” He then said, “‘Rosanna, you’re making a big mistake.’” In response, Arquette said to Weinstein that she wasn’t “that girl.”
“I will never be that girl,” she said as she left the hotel. She didn’t get the part she went to get the script for.https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0cee762dd8bf1
I also think it may have been easier for those two as they came from high profile acting families.
Angelina just said he made advances and she walked away. It had nothing to to with getting a part.
Rosanna Arquette doesn't mention what movie or role it was. Just that she was picking up a script and then she didn't get the part, so she never actually auditioned for anything.
Heather Grahm wasn't mentioned in the article.
The article also mentioned Gwynth Paltrow as having turned down his advances, and she kept her role in "Emma."
I'd say this article doesn't support the "lost the job" criteria. Angelina never worked with him and has a huge career. Paltrow worked directly with him and kept her job. And Rosanna Arquette's story has too few details to even really evaluate whether it is true.
I believe many of these women are exaggerating for attention and sympathy
I believe this is a slippery slope. That any interaction with women can be considered sexual harassment
I'm a guy, and I'm sorry, but this is total nonsense.
I have interactions with women every day. I don't fear being accused of sexual harassment, because I act professionally and treat them like normal people.
Angelina just said he made advances and she walked away. It had nothing to to with getting a part.
Rosanna Arquette doesn't mention what movie or role it was. Just that she was picking up a script and then she didn't get the part, so she never actually auditioned for anything.
Heather Grahm wasn't mentioned in the article.
The article also mentioned Gwynth Paltrow as having turned down his advances, and she kept her role in "Emma."
I'd say this article doesn't support the "lost the job" criteria. Angelina never worked with him and has a huge career. Paltrow worked directly with him and kept her job. And Rosanna Arquette's story has too few details to even really evaluate whether it is true.
Not to sound rude, but I am not going to google to prove something you are clearly hung up on for some reason - I already have a job
I have a serious question. What makes a breast grab sexual assault? If I grab your hand it's ok but it I grab a breast it's sexual. What makes it sexual? What if i thought grabbing a hand was sexual?
I've learned that it's only sexual assault if she's not attracted to you.
Are you considering a handshake as a grab? As a general rule, just don’t grab people.
These sorts of things do vary by culture, but to my knowledge, breasts are overall considered to be sexual (whether they should be is a different argument because of breastfeeding, but I would still not want people touching mine) and thus off limits unless invited. Hands do not have the same level of...taboo?
There are a lot of nuances associated with all of this, of course.
Woman have been sexual harassed and assaulted forever (so have men). It was always pretty much accepted. Is it fair now to call out all of them? I mean rape, for sure. What about the a** grab here, boob grab there, uncomfortable unwarranted kiss? Should all of these instances be brought up now? What good is that going to do besides ruin the mens lives who were basically doing what was acceptable at the time for their gender?
Should I call out a managing partner in my firm now for the a** grab and drunken come on and the Christmas party 15 years ago when I was a young intern and just hired? (I am not). There has to be some kind of line drawn.
I just left my gym where I was working on a couple of the machines that face the free weights.
As I was doing my thing, a group of three was working out in front of me with dumb bells.
One of the three, a mid-twenties female, was wearing workout pants that were so tight that I could literally see the details of the outline of her vagina from the back as she repeatedly bent over in front of me.
I didn't go there to see that, but being a normal health male, I really couldn't take my eyes off of it.
So, am I wrong for looking?
After all, she started it.
Of course, technically, I was leering.
So at what point does a female who deliberately makes herself a sexual sideshow attraction get to call me out for responding to her provocative actions?
<snip> So at what point does a female who deliberately makes herself a sexual sideshow attraction get to call me out for responding to her provocative actions?
Sounds like a poor wardrobe choice. Men have the same problem. Women don't complain when we are forced to look at "plumber's crack" every time our toilet needs fixed. FYI: We are forced to pay $100/hr to look at that sideshow.
Sounds like a poor wardrobe choice. Men have the same problem. Women don't complain when we are forced to look at "plumber's crack" every time our toilet needs fixed. FYI: We are forced to pay $100/hr to look at that sideshow.
I just left my gym where I was working on a couple of the machines that face the free weights.
As I was doing my thing, a group of three was working out in front of me with dumb bells.
One of the three, a mid-twenties female, was wearing workout pants that were so tight that I could literally see the details of the outline of her vagina from the back as she repeatedly bent over in front of me.
I didn't go there to see that, but being a normal health male, I really couldn't take my eyes off of it.
So, am I wrong for looking?
After all, she started it.
Of course, technically, I was leering.
So at what point does a female who deliberately makes herself a sexual sideshow attraction get to call me out for responding to her provocative actions?
Nothing wrong with looking. Now, if you walked up to her and put your hand half inch away from her vagina and pretended to grab you would probably be posting from a holding cell right now.
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