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Old 11-17-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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BTW, don't all Californians want to pay ever more taxes? Shame on you for not wanting to pay your fair share.
Let's see... I'm giving up my personal deduction and my state/local deduction, causing my taxes to go up, to help fund a tax cut so some rich guy can avoid paying AMT. Yeah that's "fair."

This tax plan is so heavily stacked in favor of the wealthy it's shocking that Congress actually supports it with a straight face and in broad daylight. Also shocking is how conservatives, who for years were so concerned about the public debt, are gleefully borrowing $5 Tril over 10 years to fund this handout to the rich.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Let's see... I'm giving up my personal deduction and my state/local deduction, causing my taxes to go up, to help fund a tax cut so some rich guy can avoid paying AMT. Yeah that's "fair."

This tax plan is so heavily stacked in favor of the wealthy it's shocking that Congress actually supports it with a straight face and in broad daylight. Also shocking is how conservatives, who for years were so concerned about the public debt, are gleefully borrowing $5 Tril over 10 years to fund this handout to the rich.
there was an article in the NYTimes that the tax cuts benefits the rich and corporations and the residents of states with low cost of living.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Aliso Viejo, Orange County, CA
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Guess who benefits the most?

House Republicans Pass Tax Bill
No one seemed to care that the bill isnít particularly popular.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009
Democrats criticized their GOP colleagues for selling this tax plan as a middle-class tax cut when 47 percent of the tax benefits, according to a study by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, would go to the richest 1 percent.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The usual RHINOs, remember at voting time.
McClintock and Rohrabacher are RINOs?
(I wouldn't exactly call Jones, Smith, and Zeldin RINOs either.)
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Old 11-17-2017, 04:04 PM
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Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
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McClintock and Rohrabacher are RINOs?
(I wouldn't exactly call Jones, Smith, and Zeldin RINOs either.)
Issa had to vote no, or he would be gone next year for certain. The other 2 had no risk of losing their seats so their stand was principled.
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Old 11-17-2017, 04:10 PM
 
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Trump's tax plan passed the House by a 227-205 vote. For many middle- and upper-class Californians this bill will cause you to pay more in taxes.

These California representatives voted to increase your taxes:

Yea R LaMalfa, Doug CA 1st
Yea R Cook, Paul CA 8th
Yea R Denham, Jeff CA 10th
Yea R Valadao, David CA 21st
Yea R Nunes, Devin CA 22nd
Yea R McCarthy, Kevin CA 23rd
Yea R Knight, Steve CA 25th
Yea R Royce, Ed CA 39th
Yea R Calvert, Ken CA 42nd
Yea R Walters, Mimi CA 45th
Yea R Hunter, Duncan CA 50th

We Californians need to remember this in 2018.
Were you just as outraged when the CA legislature voted to increase the gas tax and annual registration fee which hurts people the most that can least afford it?
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Old 11-17-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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Were you just as outraged when the CA legislature voted to increase the gas tax and annual registration fee which hurts people the most that can least afford it?
Or the $50 million for legal services for illegal aliens.

Or Janet Napolitano hiding $175 million in the UC system and interfering in the audit.

Selective outrage.
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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To counteract this, the state assembly should repeal the gas tax and registration fee hikes.
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Let's see... I'm giving up my personal deduction and my state/local deduction, causing my taxes to go up, to help fund a tax cut so some rich guy can avoid paying AMT. Yeah that's "fair."

This tax plan is so heavily stacked in favor of the wealthy it's shocking that Congress actually supports it with a straight face and in broad daylight. Also shocking is how conservatives, who for years were so concerned about the public debt, are gleefully borrowing $5 Tril over 10 years to fund this handout to the rich.
No you're giving up your state and local exemption because you should pay just as much FIT as the guy in Alabama making the same income. Put another way, you are paying and getting services from your state that you are taking as a deduction that others (like us in Washington state) can't take.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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No you're giving up your state and local exemption because you should pay just as much FIT as the guy in Alabama making the same income. Put another way, you are paying and getting services from your state that you are taking as a deduction that others (like us in Washington state) can't take.
It doesn't matter what state people live in -- the feds shouldn't tax dollars given to state and local governments. It's a form of double taxation.
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