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Old 11-16-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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Exactly. I don't live there, but the South Dakotans overwhelmingly voted for Trump and this pipeline, so they get what they voted for. It's ground pollution (not air), so why should any non-South Dakota resident care?
Using that argument, California shouldnt get federal help with wildfire, right?
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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Using that argument, California shouldnt get federal help with wildfire, right?
Why? Wildfires are natural disasters. This is man-made and was clearly the reason people opposed it.
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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The pipeline crossed Native American lands and they staged protests that the pipeline would leak and pollute their land. You may consider SD a wasteland they do not. I further take issue that if one considers an area a wasteland, who cares if it is despoiled. Well, that is just short sighted.
The people of SD voted >60% for Trump, who 100% supported the pipeline. Maybe they should rethink their politics, if not, reap what you sow. I know there were protests (which I agree with), but the vote is the vote.
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Old 11-16-2017, 06:58 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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When its far more profitable to skimp on safety measures and just pay the symbolic fine and lose some oil...........
BP paid $18.7 billion for their oil spill. That amounts to $4300 per barrel.
https://www.petro-online.com/news/fu...lculated/35295

Symbolic?
No.
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Because if it goes unpunished it could well spread elsewhere.
I'm not sure who is suggesting it shouldnt go unpunished.
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Why? Wildfires are natural disasters. This is man-made and was clearly the reason people opposed it.
So we're picking and choosing what type of disasters are "real" ?
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:08 PM
 
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The 2013 rail disaster in Lac-Megantic in Quebec, Canada caused by a runaway train who transported 7 millions of litres of crude oil, exploded killing 47 people.
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5.98 million litres actually were spilled as 9 tank cars were moved off the track, and didn't leak.

As compared to-Kalamazoo river spill from a pipeline. 3.7 million litres of diluted bitumin(far worse then regular oil) dumped directly into a river. The LAST place you want that specific type dropped

All told the damages from the two were about equal, other then loss of life of course. Which is fairly rare. And yes people do die from oil pipelines too, imagine one of those catching fire!
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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How is it far more profitable to pay fines, oil, clean up vs not ?

Thats ridiculous.
Because safety measures that reduce the risk to a negligible risk are EXPENSIVE!
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Old 11-16-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Oh look, as always Republicans were wrong.
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Old 11-16-2017, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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It shouldn't surprise anyone if it comes out that this was sabotage.
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Old 11-16-2017, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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These people act like the oil companies dont care that they just lost 210,000 gallons of oil that they cant sell.

profits, dictate they do it in the safest manner possible...
You must be very young.
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