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View Poll Results: Trump and GOP cut 25 Billion from Medicare ,is that OK with You?
Yes 11 30.56%
No 25 69.44%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Phil75230 View Post
Dane, don't you know by now that to the Trumpisis, "winning" is more about cocky blustering, bragging, and bullying instead of substance. ;-)
So if there is no substance, $25 billion is NOT being cut? Taxes are not being cut? etc?

The left sure is doing a lot of whining over "no substance"...
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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And when conservatives tell us that they are going to save us money they are almost always lying, just look at this dumpster fire of a tax bill.
right and when the republicans said each family would save 2,500 dollars under the ppaca.


and when the loss of 500 million dollars was called a good investment, in retrospect, all was good


then again even when we were told energy prices would skyrocket and gasoline prices needed to reach those of Europe the same people that cry about an imaginary cut to medicare were silent.


the ppaca at work


""I was blindsided that the subsidy has to be paid back," said Riddle, adding she didn't even use the coverage, which she had until she qualified for Medicare in October."


"Like Riddle, many Americans on the exchange will likely have to pay back some or all of their subsidies. Between 4.5 million and 7.5 million taxpayers received subsidies for insurance premiums when they signed up for coverage on Obamacare exchanges, federal officials said. These folks had to forecast their 2014 income when they applied. Those who underestimated their earnings either will receive smaller tax refunds or will owe the IRS money."
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:12 AM
 
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right and when the republicans said each family would save 2,500 dollars under the ppaca.
Obama himself said ACA would save american businesses so much, that employers would give each employee a substantial pay raise..

many are still waiting for it...
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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But. this tax bill is good for every corporation in the US, not one of them stand to lose - please explain how we can't have any losers in the business sector but it's ok to have millions of hardworking people end up being collateral damage
90% of middleclass and below will see a tax cut....

corporations which hire people will see cuts that will help the economy and the people of this country


if 90% see a tax CUT, and only 10% will see a small increase...why would you be complaining about something that helps the majority of people???
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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$25 billion cut to Medicare. Tired of winning yet?
What exactly are we winning? A spot in an early grave?
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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Well, GOP voters trend towards being older, IIRC. Hope they enjoy the fruits of their folly.
More money I keep in my pocket is a good thing.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Since you guys love huffington post...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jodi-..._b_946004.html
Let's get something straight, I don't belong to any organization called 'you guys' and I hate Huffington Post.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes cutting welfare is lovely. Too many are on it for too long. Its an emergency measure not a lifestyle.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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You don't believe 25 billion can be cut from Medicare without hurting those who really need it. I believe we can cut much more than that and still provide needed services.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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90% of middleclass and below will see a tax cut....
corporations which hire people will see cuts that will help the economy and the people of this country
if 90% see a tax CUT, and only 10% will see a small increase...why would you be complaining about something that helps the majority of people???
How many corporations will pay more?
  • A chunk of Americans could actually see their tax bills increase under the Senate GOP tax reform proposal, according to an analysis released Monday.
  • The report from the Joint Committee on Taxation, a nonpartisan arm of Congress, found that 9.1% of American taxpayers would see their bills go up in 2019 under the Senate version of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA).
  • Another report from the JCT estimated that roughly 16 million taxpayers would see their tax bills go up under the Senate plan.
  • Based on the JCT's numbers, 13.8 million of those 16 million taxpayers who would see an increase make $200,000 a year or less, and 7.9 million make $100,000 a year or less.
  • According to the JCT's analysis, the percentage of people seeing their taxes increase would grow over the life of the Senate's tax bill. In 2027, 12.2% of people would see their taxes increase by $100 or more and 29% of people would see no change to their taxes.
Trump tax plan: Senate bill would raise taxes on 16 million in 2019 - Business Insider

I'm not sure how you can defend this and keep a straight face
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