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Old 11-18-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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What would make LA a good example of a 'typical' American city?
Oh Houston, what percentage of people are moving downtown?

In Dallas?

What percentage of people in Santa Clara are packing up their things to move downtown SF?
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I'm so happy you brought up the water engine. It illustrates the goofy conspiracy theories people believe.

Yeah, those folks know the oil companies bought up and hid that 200MPG carburetor years ago!
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: the Sticks
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I live within walking distance (ranging from 100 ft to 1 mile) of every necessity I need. That's the advantage of living Downtown vs the suburbs like you guys. I view car necessity as a prison of its own
I am amazed every time I go to NYC. Amazed by how many homes have bars on their windows. Some of the bars are stylish. They all look like a prison to me. I couldn't and wouldn't live anywhere where I felt so threatened to need bars on the windows and multiple deadbolts on my doors.
Rural life for me. I do want high speed trains and I do enjoy visiting cities.
I agree with you on the pure convenience of city life. The sheer variety is amazing. In the town closest to me there are 2 gas stations and a restaurant. The next town has more, but its the same.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Oh Houston, what percentage of people are moving downtown?

In Dallas?

What percentage of people in Santa Clara are packing up their things to move downtown SF?

I give up. What are the percentages?
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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I am amazed every time I go to NYC. Amazed by how many homes have bars on their windows. Some of the bars are stylish. They all look like a prison to me. I couldn't and wouldn't live anywhere where I felt so threatened to need bars on the windows and multiple deadbolts on my doors.
Rural life for me. I do want high speed trains and I do enjoy visiting cities.
I agree with you on the pure convenience of city life. The sheer variety is amazing. In the town closest to me there are 2 gas stations and a restaurant. The next town has more, but its the same.
It still comes down to person priorities. What is more important to an individual, more restaurants or building a motocross course on the back few acres?

Different people place different values on such things.

Typically speaking, I seem to notice downtown urban dwellers see their priorities as "correct" and those of people in the suburb or rural areas as "incorrect ".
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I give up. What are the percentages?
I don't know, but the people saying there exists a migration trend of people moving downtown should.

I don't believe there is any significant movement of people into urban downtown areas; therefore, I'd like to see the data from those making the claim.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa?
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This is true. Rail is a 20th century solution. For developed countries, the cost far outweighs the benefit for new construction. And it's a very inflexible solution. Trains only go where the rails go, not necessarily where people want to go. And once the rails are built, you cannot change where they go.

Rail fits China nicely for many reasons. Their entire country is centrally controlled so the government can do whatever it wants to do. Freedom of citizens is never an issue. So eminent domain is the norm and they don't ever have to fight to take the land needed for rail because the GOVERNMENT owns all of the land.

Extremely cheap labor is also a factor. They have almost a billion people living on $5 per day or less. Those people will gladly work for almost nothing.

The USA should forget about rail construction and focus on the future which is driverless vehicles.
Don't forget that the Chinese were instrumental in building our rail infrastructure in the 19th century, for the same reason.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I don't know, but the people saying there exists a migration trend of people moving downtown should.
That would likely be the Census Bureau.

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I don't believe there is any significant movement of people into urban downtown areas; therefore, I'd like to see the data from those making the claim.
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...8EQ5AJ20120326
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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If the people wanted high speed rail the cost wouldn't be insurmountable.

But they don't......

We're too married to our cars and the freedom and independence they bring to care about high speed rail.
Problem is that traffic congestion is getting ridiculous and I don't see it improving
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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That would likely be the Census Bureau.

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...8EQ5AJ20120326
Is the Census Bureau referring to metro area or downtown?
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