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Old 11-23-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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It doesn't cost that much to provide these things. They could allow prisoners to have more than a measly $400 per month deposited into their "accounts" and allow them to buy things to contribute to the prison itself. Raise the limit to $2000 per month, and make the prisoners pay for these amenities for their cells if they want them.

They should end the war on narcotic contraband in prison. Honestly if a prison inmate wants to smoke marijuana or have tobacco, who cares. Shaking down cells for small amounts of narcotics seems to be a major waste of time, much like arresting people for simple drug possession is. They should focus on violent crime, not drugs. If they don't want to do this, they should eliminate the ability for prisoners to receive mail and regulate their ability to interact with the outside world.

The biggest problem in prison are the violent inmates who rig the system so that the non violent inmates kind of have to play along. Anyone caught with shanks immediately gets moved to maximum security. Anyone caught cutting or getting in a fight with someone gets years added to their sentence and permanently moved to maximum security. Anyone who has had good behavior and snitches gets their sentence reduced for snitching. Snitching is one thing that could help the system more if it wasn't so aggressively punished by other inmates.

Non violent offenders with good behavior get moved to lower security areas with rehabilitation services to try to get them ready for life outside of prison. Some people can be saved, and some can't.

On another note, I'm not sure why there's such huge gaps in between the paragraphs in my post. Either firefox is doing it or this forum software is.
Many prisoners come from poor families, and receive very little money.

Cutting off the mail and visits is perhaps the worst thing that you could do to an inmate. They look forward to hearing from their families, and to take that away is a recipe for turning an obedient inmate into a violent one.

Yes, the shotcallers give the orders and the inmates occupying the lower rungs of the hierarchy suffer the consequences.

Violent offenders are often housed with non-violent offenders, as available space is sometimes the main consideration.
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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It's awful how many crimes are committed by former prisoners. I guess the only people who are surprised are the one who let them out. Here's a local recent one, one with several twists and turns.

Sheriff's Office: Man arrested on murder charge dies of cancer overnight | WRGB

The murderer was the nephew of an Albany councilman. His victim was a brother of the Mayor's adopted soon.

The killer got out of jail because he was dying of cancer (he died after he was arrested for the murder). So, his final killing was one for the road, you might say.

Just this one killing by a parolee is one more death caused by parole than all the people killed by nuclear power and GMO's put together. Yet, what are people frightened to death of? Hint: it's not parole.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:22 PM
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It's awful how many crimes are committed by former prisoners. I guess the only people who are surprised are the one who let them out. Here's a local recent one, one with several twists and turns.

Sheriff's Office: Man arrested on murder charge dies of cancer overnight | WRGB

The murderer was the nephew of an Albany councilman. His victim was a brother of the Mayor's adopted soon.

The killer got out of jail because he was dying of cancer (he died after he was arrested for the murder). So, his final killing was one for the road, you might say.

Just this one killing by a parolee is one more death caused by parole than all the people killed by nuclear power and GMO's put together. Yet, what are people frightened to death of? Hint: it's not parole.
With murderers that is a different story. They shouldn't get out at all. The killer reminds me of this guy in the video clip below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuTXMbIuEho

This video takes place in Texas. The guy convicted for murder is asking for the death penalty, literally.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:42 PM
 
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I think it is areal simple; do not commit crimes.

If a person does not want the consequences of being a criminal, then simply do not be one. It is not hard, most people are never arrested, let alone convicted of a criminal offense.
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Old 11-23-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I think it is areal simple; do not commit crimes.
Yea and homeless people should just buy houses its so simple
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Old 11-23-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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Yea and homeless people should just buy houses its so simple
Buying a home requires funds, not breaking the law requires no effort other than not committing the crime. Unless of course you are claiming their is a genetic link to crime? Or something else beyond their control?
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:22 PM
 
Location: SC
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Buying a home requires funds, not breaking the law requires no effort other than not committing the crime. Unless of course you are claiming their is a genetic link to crime? Or something else beyond their control?
People "without funds" buy food and shelter with what? Sometimes, living without forces people into crime.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Southern West Virginia
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Buying a home requires funds, not breaking the law requires no effort other than not committing the crime. Unless of course you are claiming their is a genetic link to crime? Or something else beyond their control?
If you grow up poor, in a violent & poor neighborhood, with violent, neglectful parents, and your relatives and friends are all criminals, don't you think that makes it unlikely that you will grow up to be a productive, law-abiding member of society? Some of these kids don't have much of a chance at being law-abiding.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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I think it is areal simple; do not commit crimes.

If a person does not want the consequences of being a criminal, then simply do not be one. It is not hard, most people are never arrested, let alone convicted of a criminal offense.
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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If you grow up poor, in a violent & poor neighborhood, with violent, neglectful parents, and your relatives and friends are all criminals, don't you think that makes it unlikely that you will grow up to be a productive, law-abiding member of society? Some of these kids don't have much of a chance at being law-abiding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7TT4jnnWys
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