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Behaving like animals is what go them into the place where they are treated like animals.
So basically once they are in even for a minor offence you think they should be discarded and become a permanent second class citizen. In the long run it would be cheaper to help them.
So basically once they are in even for a minor offence you think they should be discarded and become a permanent second class citizen. In the long run it would be cheaper to help them.
Firstly, people who do hard time for minor offences generally have committed more serious transgressions. So in essence they do not really serve time for minor offences. Certainly one can find the rare exception, but rare is just that.
Secondly, if family, friends, church/mosque/temple, school, social mores, etc did not make the convict a good citizen in the first place, what exactly are you going to do after the fact?
Finally, neither I nor you are discarding anyone. Criminals made a choice, rolled the dice, and lost. Now the bill must be paid.
I do not rob banks or murder people who annoy me because I know I will end up in prison. Prison is a very powerful incentive for me to obey the law. What is stopping others from seeing what I see?
Prisons are an industry like any other, they need a certain amount of 'clients' to be successful and profitable, this industry just happens to have the US dept of justice at their back, to ensure they continue to be profitable year after year. Law are created that will guarantee enough people will break them and be caught, to make it lucrative enough, drug and sex crimes were perfect, LOTS of people willing to break those laws.
Ultimately the public needs to stand up and stop the increasing police state our nation has become.
Prisons are an industry like any other, they need a certain amount of 'clients' to be successful and profitable, this industry just happens to have the US dept of justice at their back, to ensure they continue to be profitable year after year. Law are created that will guarantee enough people will break them and be caught, to make it lucrative enough, drug and sex crimes were perfect, LOTS of people willing to break those laws.
Ultimately the public needs to stand up and stop the increasing police state our nation has become.
Yea the prison industry is hypnotizing men into grabbing sawed off shotguns and robbing the corner mart.
Firstly, people who do hard time for minor offences generally have committed more serious transgressions. So in essence they do not really serve time for minor offences. Certainly one can find the rare exception, but rare is just that. Secondly, if family, friends, church/mosque/temple, school, social mores, etc did not make the convict a good citizen in the first place, what exactly are you going to do after the fact? Finally, neither I nor you are discarding anyone. Criminals made a choice, rolled the dice, and lost. Now the bill must be paid. I do not rob banks or murder people who annoy me because I know I will end up in prison. Prison is a very powerful incentive for me to obey the law. What is stopping others from seeing what I see?
Some people do years for relatively minor offenses. Until a few years ago in California, a person with a very small amount of a controlled substance could be sent to prison for 3,4 or 5 years if they 'transported' that drug, which included having it in your pocket while you were riding a bicycle. There are still arcane laws like that on the books in almost all states, your lack of familiarity with them does not prove they don't exist.
As I already tried to explain. Most people who commit crimes don't contemplate getting caught, thus threat of long prison terms is rarely a deterrent. The reasons for that are varied, i.e. inability to comprehend cause and effect, sociopathy, immaturity, etc. Here's a link that might help you understand what does deter criminal activity and what doesn't. https://nij.gov/five-things/pages/deterrence.aspx
I would have a team of tech guys invent a collar to put on them that would zap them if they get too close to another inmate, would have voice recognition that would zap them if they use foul language or raise their voice. They would learn a trade and they would learn how to speak properly and with respect to others. I would hire psychologists to reprogram them from the person who got them put in prison, the person their inept, drug addled single mother raised.
One of the reasons the US Justice system is so inept at dealing with crime is US prisons are essentially college for inmates they go and come out a better criminal. Solutions to deal with this largely fall on deaf ears since our country is set up to massively punish people even for minor crimes and offenses. Solutions to this crisis remove the stigma of hiring a ex convict if they can't get jobs because of criminal record this in effect creates a double punishment despite the fact the time has been served. If criminals can't find jobs they return to crime. If we as a country cared about reducing crime we need to help train prisoners in demand jobs and fields make it so they don't become de facto second class citizens on release and help line up jobs for them. With a lower recidivism rate we could have a higher GDP as more citizens become productive and pay taxes.
You are forgetting about one thing. In the USA, any dollar is a good dollar. There are billions and billions of dollars to be made and endless careers to be supported by keeping prisoners in jail, and by releasing them in order to be able to re-incarcerate them. That's why your proposal will go nowhere. Profit trumps logic and rationality any day in the week in the USA.
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