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Old 11-18-2017, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1DI0QV

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-str...er-from-trump/

Didn't he solemnly swear to obey the orders a President when he enlisted decades ago?

Why are generals who have been in the service for decades making unfiltered comments like that?

Tremendously disturbing and unprofessional of him to say that while the world is listening. It is almost as if he in a very passive way is trying to cheapen and demean President Trump.

What strange times we live in? I don't know if he passively implying anything about the current President but it just seems strange to me.

Seems like the Pentagon is even at a loss for word's over the general's comments. It just seems very inappropriate for a general to make those sort of comments when the world is watching.

Seems like he is making passive remarks and demeaning our President. Isn't the President of the Commander of Chief?
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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Key word in the article is "illegal". You are taught in the military not to follow an illegal order. However, just because you think an order is illegal, doesn't mean it is illegal. Not following an order can have consequences.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The headline is misleading. In the article, the General goes on to say that after informing him that a particular order is illegal they would find a way to make it legal. My guess is that it's about how these orders are worded. There is a protocol that needs to be followed in a certain way. This is how we avoided accidental or heat in the moment launches.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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If you were this guy, and the president of the US asked you to nuke Canada for no reason at all, would you do it? I sure wouldn't.

Not saying Trump has any intentions of nuking Canada any time soon, but the point is, if Trump - or ANY president - asked you to nuke a country which clearly had no need of being nuked, it would be your moral obligation to resist that order.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Key word in the article is "illegal". You are taught in the military not to follow an illegal order. However, just because you think an order is illegal, doesn't mean it is illegal. Not following an order can have consequences.
Why are generals making these comments though that are just inviting the news media to go wild?

I doubt in an earlier, more dignified era that generals would speak so bluntly and public like this.

There is the first amendment but it just seems disrespectful to the commander and chief to give speeches passively like that.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If you were this guy, and the president of the US asked you to nuke Canada for no reason at all, would you do it? I sure wouldn't.

Not saying Trump has any intentions of nuking Canada any time soon, but the point is, if Trump - or ANY president - asked you to nuke a country which clearly had no need of being nuked, it would be your moral obligation to resist that order.
President Trump is extremely experienced in diplomatic negotiation through his resort empire. President Trump has mastered the art of communication, negotiation and compromise through his decades of experience being one of the most successful real estate empire's the world has ever seen.

President Trump is almost always right. His comments or Tweet's have never caused an issue. He is a brilliant man and thinks everything through before he makes public comments.

I am sure the general is a very decorated servant but I think we all can agree that President Trump is a man of unquestioned brilliance.

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Old 11-18-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1DI0QV

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-str...er-from-trump/

Didn't he solemnly swear to obey the orders a President when he enlisted decades ago?

Why are generals who have been in the service for decades making unfiltered comments like that?

Tremendously disturbing and unprofessional of him to say that while the world is listening. It is almost as if he in a very passive way is trying to cheapen and demean President Trump.

What strange times we live in? I don't know if he passively implying anything about the current President but it just seems strange to me.

Seems like the Pentagon is even at a loss for word's over the general's comments. It just seems very inappropriate for a general to make those sort of comments when the world is watching.

Seems like he is making passive remarks and demeaning our President. Isn't the President of the Commander of Chief?
What is your political affiliation again?
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Why are generals making these comments though that are just inviting the news media to go wild?

I doubt in an earlier, more dignified era that generals would speak so bluntly and public like this.

There is the first amendment but it just seems disrespectful to the commander and chief to give speeches passively like that.
I would suggest you read more on military history and its leadership over the years. Check out what Macarthur and Chesty Puller have said.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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President Trump is extremely experienced in diplomatic negotiation through his resort empire. I am President Trump has mastered the art of communication, negotiation and compromise through his decades of experience being one of the most successful real estate empire's the world has ever seen.

President Trump is almost always right. His comments or Tweet's have never caused an issue. He is a brilliant man and thinks everything through before he makes public comments.

I am sure the general is a very decorated servant but I think we all can agree that President Trump is a man of unquestioned brilliance.
While I like Trump, I am hoping this was sarcasm.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Maybe he realizes, like the rest of us, that Trump is f***ing nuts. I admire a guy who doesn't want to see the world obliterated because some self absorbed, narcissistic fool forgot to put his big boy pants on when another world leader decides that glorifying Trump is just not on the agenda for the day.

Someone thinking of others besides himself and the consequences of a nuclear war on the rest of the planet. That's a foreign concept to Trump and his little Trumplings. Trump's ego is most certainly not worth destroying the world over.
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